Posted on Jan 21, 2015
Can addressing junior service members by rank alone be considered a derogatory term?
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Throughout my career, I have noticed that certain rank-titles have been continually used in a derogatory manner. The most glaring of these are 'Private', 'Specialist', 'Cadet', 'Lieutenant', and 'LT'.
Here are a few examples:
- "Hey ________, come here!"
- "Hurry up ________!"
- "What are you doing ________?"
You would never hear someone use those phrases to an NCO or officer of the rank of Captain or higher, especially without adding their name to their rank when addressing them, so why talk down to someone just because they're of a certain rank?
This has always bothered me; especially when it was directed at me while I was serving at each of those ranks. So, as a tiny effort, for the past 10 years or so, I have avoided using those rank-titles in a stand-alone manner.
Here are a few examples:
- "Hey ________, come here!"
- "Hurry up ________!"
- "What are you doing ________?"
You would never hear someone use those phrases to an NCO or officer of the rank of Captain or higher, especially without adding their name to their rank when addressing them, so why talk down to someone just because they're of a certain rank?
This has always bothered me; especially when it was directed at me while I was serving at each of those ranks. So, as a tiny effort, for the past 10 years or so, I have avoided using those rank-titles in a stand-alone manner.
Edited 10 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
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I have noticed through out the years everyone has different ways of addressing soldiers. This is especially the case in different branches and even more so in the different MOS fields. Some soldiers need to be addressed in a more stern and direct manner and some don't. I am guilty of not using rank with lower enlisted, E4 and below. I usually call them by last name. I have always addressed officers with sir or mam and NCO's by there respective ranks. We have to be aware of our surroundings at all times. Everyone needs to remember where they came from, we all started from the bottom and had to work our way up.
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Anything can be offensive if you take it that way. It never bothered me to be called by my rank.
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No, addressing someone by rank alone is not derogatory, even in potentially disciplinary situations. My superiors would regularly address me by rank alone, in both normal conversation and when getting corrected, and it never bothered me. The rank system is there for a reason, and should be used properly.
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I make it a point to address subordinates by their rank, specifically the Junior Soldiers. I also make a habit of addressing NCO's by their full rank, though not required. I think one reason I do this is because I want to attach weight to their rank, to let them know that being a Specialist or being a Private First Class means something and that it shows that every rank has associated responsibility.
I reinforce this during promotion ceremonies, when PVT's and PFC's are promoted I ensure that the other soldiers know that this transition means something and that the individual will receive increased responsibility. While I have little influence outside of my little realm, I'd hope that I am giving each of our soldiers a little more respect for what they wear on their chest and to think about how each transition they make towards becoming an NCO is a small building block. It also conveys to the NCO's that my expectations for the performance of their soldiers has increased, and that those soldiers have my trust (and therefore should have theirs) in receiving new responsibility.
I reinforce this during promotion ceremonies, when PVT's and PFC's are promoted I ensure that the other soldiers know that this transition means something and that the individual will receive increased responsibility. While I have little influence outside of my little realm, I'd hope that I am giving each of our soldiers a little more respect for what they wear on their chest and to think about how each transition they make towards becoming an NCO is a small building block. It also conveys to the NCO's that my expectations for the performance of their soldiers has increased, and that those soldiers have my trust (and therefore should have theirs) in receiving new responsibility.
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Its a matter of respect. Young soldiers will respect soldiers of higher rank. It's the same thing I teach my kids when dressing adults, they say maam or sir. I didn't put in 21 years into the Army for a private to disrespect me. I always treat lower enlisted with the respect they deserve as well.
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Everything is centered around your intent. If you mean to degrade or belittle the individual by soley addressing their rank, it is blatantly obvious.
If you're professional with how you exude yourself and your wording, there is nothing wrong with it.
Personally, I address Soldiers by rank and name. It's a common courtesy.
If you're professional with how you exude yourself and your wording, there is nothing wrong with it.
Personally, I address Soldiers by rank and name. It's a common courtesy.
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I have seen the title of Private conferred as a derogatory term, with the connotation and inflection one would use when calling someone a F***tard or something similar. Personally, I hated being addressed as such when I was a private. I didn't mind being called private, but when said like that, it felt demeaning like my rank was nothing or worse. After getting soldiers to lead after making Specialist, I made it a point to not say rank in such a way, especially lower ranks like Private. Do unto others and such, a rule I try to live by in my leadership skills just like I did when I was a department head in the civilian world.
I do believe that rank is earned though and as such, I will use their rank with their name when addressing them.
I do believe that rank is earned though and as such, I will use their rank with their name when addressing them.
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I don't have a box to click, and here's why...
When people refer to me as LT, I know it's meant in a loving way. I have no problems with folks doing this, and I know it's about paying my dues.
I wouldn't refer to an Airman I didn't know by saying, "Hey Airman..." I would use "Sir" or "Ma'am," because regardless of the enlisted/officer factor, I learned in BMT and OTS to render those courtesies. A little respect goes a long way.
When people refer to me as LT, I know it's meant in a loving way. I have no problems with folks doing this, and I know it's about paying my dues.
I wouldn't refer to an Airman I didn't know by saying, "Hey Airman..." I would use "Sir" or "Ma'am," because regardless of the enlisted/officer factor, I learned in BMT and OTS to render those courtesies. A little respect goes a long way.
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Most likely, CPT Michael Barden. It's not looked down upon in the AF, at least not in my experience. You might get the occasional, "Don't call be sir, I work for a living" joke, but that's it.
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I agree that it is service specific, Sir. I was in the Army first. The first time that I was addressed as "Ma'am" in the Air Force, I looked at that person crazily.
I also remember the first time I was asked my first name (by a junior Enlisted). I gave the garden variety Army answer of, "Sergeant".
Now being in the Air Force, I call everyone "Sir/Ma'am" as a sign of respect. But as I am in the Joint world, I know better than to call the other Services thusly. :)
I also remember the first time I was asked my first name (by a junior Enlisted). I gave the garden variety Army answer of, "Sergeant".
Now being in the Air Force, I call everyone "Sir/Ma'am" as a sign of respect. But as I am in the Joint world, I know better than to call the other Services thusly. :)
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If you don't want to use the rank as a stand-alone title, add their last name to it. Instead of "Private," say "Private Jones," etc. I also use "Gentlemen" when addressing more than one (in an all male unit). I see no problem with it.
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