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SFC Severs the EIB is a challenge and the CIB is not? Ranger Inf Advisor Vietnamese Army ‘ 68 - ‘ 69 mine was not 100 hour war or ‘ Circumstantial’In 68 and 69 we lost over 27,000 guys. Your comments are ignorant outrageous and damn insulting
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Can’t understand if you have been in combat why you would wear EIB? CIB is the real deal, what you train for
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OK, the EIB says you are a well trained troop. Troops with less training have not yet earned it. I get that. It is fine for a troop to take pride in achieving any difficult accomplishment. I also understand there are a lot of fine troops, with varying degrees of training and experience, who have never been sent into combat. You can be a gung-ho super-troop, but if you are never in combat, you will never earn a CIB.
All that said, I have been through quite a few schools and was honor grad several times. I have several rows of medals - for going where I was sent, and doing what I was told.
I only earned three distinctions in combat and those are the ones I am proudest of. I wear my CIB, usually on my VFW Post Commander's cap since mine was in Vietnam and I have not been on active duty in many decades.
I only display ONE medal on my desk, my Air Medal, again because that's the only one that was for combat action. Finally, I am proud to have earned the right to wear a combat patch on my right shoulder. In fact, I have three of those to choose from, 101st Airborne, 2nd Infantry, and 18th MP Brigade. I am proud of all three and have fond memories of the men I served with earning the right.
So, if you earned both an EIB and a CIB, suck it up buttercup, the CIB is the big boy award, wear it with pride.
All that said, I have been through quite a few schools and was honor grad several times. I have several rows of medals - for going where I was sent, and doing what I was told.
I only earned three distinctions in combat and those are the ones I am proudest of. I wear my CIB, usually on my VFW Post Commander's cap since mine was in Vietnam and I have not been on active duty in many decades.
I only display ONE medal on my desk, my Air Medal, again because that's the only one that was for combat action. Finally, I am proud to have earned the right to wear a combat patch on my right shoulder. In fact, I have three of those to choose from, 101st Airborne, 2nd Infantry, and 18th MP Brigade. I am proud of all three and have fond memories of the men I served with earning the right.
So, if you earned both an EIB and a CIB, suck it up buttercup, the CIB is the big boy award, wear it with pride.
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If you had earned and were awarded the CIB why would you want to wear the EIB. A close comparison of the EIB and CIB will reveal the CIB is essentially the EIB with a wreath around it. Now, I know what you are thinking, some people earning the CIB may actually not have earned to EIB, so be it but you might think if you were awarded both you should be allow to wear both. I guess in the same vein as the Airborne wings and the Glider or Ait Assault wings, in which case both are worn. As I think about this I would probably want to be able to display both. While similar they are indeed meant to represent two different accomplishments. So, I don't know. It must be an Army thing.
No disrespect intended.
No disrespect intended.
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You are proud of your EIB, but holding both you would wear the CIB. Never both.
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CPT William Jones
Beg to differ Col true he may only wear one at a time but we would wear the one on his choice. He can even change them out as he wishes also like at noon ,every other day or even hourly Could be he was just running a convoy and got ambushed qualified for CIB but worked his butt off to earn the EIB and in his unit there were lots of CIB but only one more with a n EIB so he chooses to wear it.
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Coming from the USCG I'm not familiar with the EIB. Can you describe the badge and how it's earned? What's the "E" stand for?
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CPT William Jones
It is called the Expert Infantry Badge and is earned by passing a series of infantry test and is said to be pretty hard to pass, It looks like the CIB only doesn't have the wreath on it.
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CPT William Jones
They signify different things. One you choose to try to earn,the other you just happen to be in the wrong place at the right time and exchange shots with the hostile force even if you get killed you can be awarded the CIB. If you die during testing for EIB you don't get the award.
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No. You’d wear the CIB. However, even after earning your CIB, you’d still be strongly encouraged to earn your EIB.
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If you were the EIB but you also have a combat patch, doesn't it follow that you have both? It's too badd that they are not both authorized to be worn simultaneously in my opinion.
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CPT William Jones
No the combat patch on your shoulder is for anyone serving in a hostile fire area for at least one day.The CIB is earned first have an infantry MOS, Be serving in an infantry slot, Then engage an armed hostile force in direct fire combat. Being on mortared FOB doesn't count.
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CPT William Jones
If a person is wearing a CIB That he was awarded on orders and he has not engaged a hostile force With direct fire weapons it is not an approved engagement for the award of the CIB.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
CPT William Jones And yet.....
My first Iraq, the Brigade I was supporting had a 95% CIB award rate for their 11Bs. Based on conversations around the Army with various folks both in the infantry and support, my experience was a bit on the high side, but not exceptionally or notably so. It honestly doesn't bug me, but it happens enough that anyone claiming the CIB is ONLY f
awarded for "direct engagement of the enemy" is either dishonest, ill-informed, or delusional. That may be the intent, but it is certainly not the practice.
My first Iraq, the Brigade I was supporting had a 95% CIB award rate for their 11Bs. Based on conversations around the Army with various folks both in the infantry and support, my experience was a bit on the high side, but not exceptionally or notably so. It honestly doesn't bug me, but it happens enough that anyone claiming the CIB is ONLY f
awarded for "direct engagement of the enemy" is either dishonest, ill-informed, or delusional. That may be the intent, but it is certainly not the practice.
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No. You wear the one you want to. Don’t let anyone tell you differently. I wear my CIB in most uniforms, but also wear my EIB and CAB on others. I do only wear my CIB on my dress uniform though.
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you can wear one of either not both. If you want to move up in ranks you will need the EIB
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As I understand the Regs', the CIB replaces the EIB, irrespective of one earning both.
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CPT William Jones
reread the regs Col you don't understand them. They are awarded for two different things
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After I received my CIB, I wore both.
The CIB above my ribbons because the regs said I had to.
The EIB under my pocket flap, because that was the one of which I was most proud.
The CIB above my ribbons because the regs said I had to.
The EIB under my pocket flap, because that was the one of which I was most proud.
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Personnel who have been awarded both the EIB and the CIB are not authorized to wear both badges simultaneously. In such cases, the CIB has precedence according to Army Regulation 670-1.
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CPT William Jones
ssg Leake there is no precedence in the reg. They are both in the same group and the wearer cam choose which he wants to wear and change them out at his convenience or desire. There is no wrong way.
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SSG Jeffrey Leake
CPT William Jones, again, I got this from the AR 670-1
Personnel who have been awarded both the EIB and the CIB are not authorized to wear both awards simultaneously. In such cases, the CIB has precedence according to Army Regulation 670-1. However, while the CIB may have precedence, holders of both may choose to wear the EIB instead of the CIB.
I never stated there was a "wrong way" to wear them sir. Maybe a recheck on the Regs is in order, sir? I did my research. It states there IS a precedence, and the CIB is over the EIB.
Personnel who have been awarded both the EIB and the CIB are not authorized to wear both awards simultaneously. In such cases, the CIB has precedence according to Army Regulation 670-1. However, while the CIB may have precedence, holders of both may choose to wear the EIB instead of the CIB.
I never stated there was a "wrong way" to wear them sir. Maybe a recheck on the Regs is in order, sir? I did my research. It states there IS a precedence, and the CIB is over the EIB.
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CPT William Jones
Thank you SSG I am out and have been a long time and don't have easy access to the ARs. I do know they are in the same group indicating only one at a time on uniform , does it specifically say there is a precedence order. I also did not say you stated there was a wrong way I just stated there was no wrong way. Thank you for your service and standing a watch on the wall( So to sum up for me. The CIB is a higher award than the EIB similar that the Silver Star is a higher award than The Bronze Star and Silver has precedence.)
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