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I was promoted to E-5 while a member of the Air NG. When I went AD Army I was allowed to keep my E-5. At the time you didn't need WLS/BLC to pin/retain E-5. I got out in 2012, took a 7 year break and got into the Army Guard last September. When I got back in the Guard I was able to retain E-5. I do have to reclass before I can do anything in my new unit. After I complete the reclass do I have to attend BLC before I can attend ALC or can I simply complete DLC2 and attend ALC?
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You need to go to BLC. BLC is the where you're introduced to the fundamentals of being an Army NCO. With your ANG time, you don't even know how to be a Soldier, much less an NCO. Don't attempt to skip learning opportunities.
We have enough Zebra's in the ranks. We don't need another one.
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We have enough Zebra's in the ranks. We don't need another one.
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SGT (Join to see) I apologize for misunderstanding you then.
I appreciate your apology. Thank you for your service and sharing your experiences with us all.
I appreciate your apology. Thank you for your service and sharing your experiences with us all.
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SFC Michael Hasbun - I know E-7s from Korea who had three years in. I suppose they had no foundational knowledge because they didn't go through Professional Development. If you think a school makes the man or NCO, I disagree.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
SGT (Join to see) - which is fine if all you need is cannon fodder. Please understand that today's military is not the same one that existed back then. What worked back then is insufficient now. Once upon a time, horses and swords were good enough as well. Time moves on. The days of the blockhead NCO are long gone. We can't survive in the modern battlefield with incompetence in the ranks.
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CPT Daniel Cox
SGT (Join to see) - What time frame are you talking about in your time in Korea? A wartime promotion in a combat zone where everyone above you in the chain of command has been rendered a non-combatant is different than Korea in 2020.
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Why would you want to go to ALC prior to attending BLC. Even if they would let you do so, you do it for you and you do it for those you will lead. You don’t want any of those who will follow you skipping/avoiding schools, so you don’t skip schools.
Always look forward. I know a lot of folks who really struggled to get picked up for SFC. One little glitch on your records can mean not making that list. Not attending a course at the NCOA will not be seen as a small glitch, but a gaping hole.
Always look forward. I know a lot of folks who really struggled to get picked up for SFC. One little glitch on your records can mean not making that list. Not attending a course at the NCOA will not be seen as a small glitch, but a gaping hole.
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The real question is do you want to go to ALC without first learning the material in BLC?
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It depends on what HRC determined when you reentered. If you were given constructive credit for BLC then no. If you were not, then yes. For instance, I have an E5 from the Navy who had to do DLC1 then BLC then DLC 2 then ALC before he can get promoted
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The real question is how is the state carrying you? If they have you as already completing BLC then they will not send you back to BLC. Additionally for ALC you will need some kind of 1059 or document that says you have completed BLC/WLC/PLDC or an equivalent. You should talk to your S1 and figure out a way forward.
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My Fiance came out of the Marine Corps as a Corporal. He did thier NCO schooling and what nots. Came to the Army - Kept his rank but still had to complete BLC before he can go to ALC.
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So what you are asking is whether or not you have to go to the Basic Leaders Course so that you can get promoted to E6 without first knowing how to be an NCO in the first place? Sounds to me like you so just go with the wind and learn the Army first before trying to get promoted. I've met way too many E6's in similar situations as yours that don't even know how to be a soldier, yet alone, a SSG.
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I was trained to be an NCO before I went to PNCOC and passed the E-5 board before I went to the NCO academy. I knew how to be an NCO before the school because I was trained to.
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SGT (Join to see) I self trained as best as I could to be an NCO before being promoted. I kept my eyes and ears open. I watched all the NCO'S in my unit to see how they dealt with different situations. I took the good and watched the bad and learned not what to do. Got promoted to E-4 and trained under one of the best E-5's in my unit. Went to WLC with a basic understanding of what it takes to be an NCO.
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You have to complete BLC, then DLC2 and then ALC. you can’t skip NCO schools.
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