Posted on May 11, 2023
Can I be denied receiving a 'Go' for a promotion board if I accidentally use gender pronouns? Should I get the IG involved?
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I recently just attended the E-5 promotion board and absolutely nailed it. Uniform, confidence, presence was on point. Answered questions correctly and to the best of my ability. Walked out of the board feeling like a million bucks. I am waiting for my sponsor to come out, and he says I received a 'No-Go' because on the first question I was asked I referred to a soldier as "he should" instead of "the soldier should." This apparently was the decision that prevented me from being promotable according to my sponsor, despite answering the other 9 questions I was asked to a T.
Is there anything on Army regulation about this? Should I get the IG involved? What if this belief is against my religion and I don't agree with it? I know the SGM has a transgender kid. I do not want to cave to using these terms if it does not align with my beliefs. I know the worlds' headed in this direction but this seems absolutely insane to me that despite acing a board, I can be prevented from promoting due to using gender pronouns. What
Is there anything on Army regulation about this? Should I get the IG involved? What if this belief is against my religion and I don't agree with it? I know the SGM has a transgender kid. I do not want to cave to using these terms if it does not align with my beliefs. I know the worlds' headed in this direction but this seems absolutely insane to me that despite acing a board, I can be prevented from promoting due to using gender pronouns. What
Promotion Board
Inspector General
Equal Opportunity (EO)
Enlisted
Edited >1 y ago
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Sounds like time to ETS!!!! I’m glad I’m getting out!!! Sad to see the ARMY collapse under political correctness! It’s failing in its job to secure and defend the nation, it’s more about defending feelings!!!
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When I was getting out (2018) and females were getting integrated into the infantry (with disastrous results I might add), we were instructed to use more “inclusive” language, such as “soldier members.” It was a BS call by the board, but likely falls under “command guidance.” Get out now, go work for a defense contractor, and go back in when we have a CinC with a spine and conscious
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COL Thomas McGrath
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff the soldier claims they were denied promotion for no real reason
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COL Thomas McGrath
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff If the soldier feels they’ve been cheated then go to the IG and ask for assistance.
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Like many, I'm looking forward to Trump changing this type of crap and getting the woke out of the military.
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Unless there is some directive that says you can't use the word "he" when talking about an unknown soldier, there can be no fault is using correct English.
The fact that this "woke/DEI" nonsense is even being discussed is why the US military is now the laughing stock of our enemies around the world. Let's hope that President Trump can get put in a command structure that is focussed on winning wars again.
The fact that this "woke/DEI" nonsense is even being discussed is why the US military is now the laughing stock of our enemies around the world. Let's hope that President Trump can get put in a command structure that is focussed on winning wars again.
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The transgender community is here, and apparently here t stay. If members of this community choose to serve in the Armed Forces, then more power to that community. Now, here’s the kicker. An individual joins the Armed Forces, the Armed Forces doesn’t join them. If their religious beliefs, personal sexual preferences, etc… run counter to the orders and regulations governing the Armed Forces, then maybe they shouldn’t sign up, and find some other way to serve their country that is more conducive to their beliefs.
If a pronoun slip was the deciding factor in whether or not to promote then there is something wrong.
If a pronoun slip was the deciding factor in whether or not to promote then there is something wrong.
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The Board probably used the process of elimination because there were others equal to your ratings and they had to choose one. I'm sure they used a "fine tooth comb" to find something on everyone in the promotion board in order to select the best qualified.
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I had to read through this a couple of times before responding. There are two sides to this in reality. Yes, it could be the new gender BS but at the same time it could be just an old soldier mentality. When I served there was a mentality of there is no male or female we are soldiers, and the only color was green. This could be what happened to you. We didn't refer to genders. Everyone was a soldier. With that in mind, it would depend on how the question was asked and what the question was. I think even in todays military referring to everyone as soldier eliminates the confusion of what pronouns to use.
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First rule that you broke, is never assume. You assumed the Soldier was male. You just happened to be before a board that was not picking. Lesson learned, keep studying and wait for a chance to go again.
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