Posted on May 11, 2023
Can I be denied receiving a 'Go' for a promotion board if I accidentally use gender pronouns? Should I get the IG involved?
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I recently just attended the E-5 promotion board and absolutely nailed it. Uniform, confidence, presence was on point. Answered questions correctly and to the best of my ability. Walked out of the board feeling like a million bucks. I am waiting for my sponsor to come out, and he says I received a 'No-Go' because on the first question I was asked I referred to a soldier as "he should" instead of "the soldier should." This apparently was the decision that prevented me from being promotable according to my sponsor, despite answering the other 9 questions I was asked to a T.
Is there anything on Army regulation about this? Should I get the IG involved? What if this belief is against my religion and I don't agree with it? I know the SGM has a transgender kid. I do not want to cave to using these terms if it does not align with my beliefs. I know the worlds' headed in this direction but this seems absolutely insane to me that despite acing a board, I can be prevented from promoting due to using gender pronouns. What
Is there anything on Army regulation about this? Should I get the IG involved? What if this belief is against my religion and I don't agree with it? I know the SGM has a transgender kid. I do not want to cave to using these terms if it does not align with my beliefs. I know the worlds' headed in this direction but this seems absolutely insane to me that despite acing a board, I can be prevented from promoting due to using gender pronouns. What
Promotion Board
Inspector General
Equal Opportunity (EO)
Enlisted
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All this 27 genders garbage I’m glad I’m out. My son however, a soldier that as he moved up the ranks made soldier of the month and later soldier of the year, just about got out. He was a squad leader with two gays and a transgender. He got a bad evaluation because his squad was not 90% ready. Yet by regulations the transgender was non deployable, the two gays weren’t either because in a deployment they would be left behind to another unit. But as luck would have it he volunteered for recruiting south where he greatly excelled again, and was promoted to SFC. At 38 he still maxes the APFT or whatever they call it now, and probably has 20 pounds to go before he’d come close to being overweight. He also enters marathons and dies quite well.
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My two cents in this matter would have no value since my E5 occurred at the right time…in the right place? Took me 15 months in service to get my E5 in Vietnam. I do appreciate the time and effort our service members put in to advance their careers. Those experiences didn’t occur for me until I got back and had to go before promotional or soldier of the quarter boards. For me, in my aged old opinion, the basic attributes of leading men and women is the primary quality that should be recognized, developed, and cherished by the armed forces.
Being politically correct when the shit hits the fan has no place in the field. Orders and directions are short and to the point with the assumption that everyone knows what to do as a well trained team. I sincerely hope that hasn’t been replaced by false ideologies.
Being politically correct when the shit hits the fan has no place in the field. Orders and directions are short and to the point with the assumption that everyone knows what to do as a well trained team. I sincerely hope that hasn’t been replaced by false ideologies.
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Unfortunately in today’s woke military they can hold up your promotion for using the wrong pronouns regardless of how good of a soldier that you are.
If you aced ever other question, there is no reason to hold up your promotion. If nothing else, you should have been promoted and been given some WOKE counseling.
Good luck to you soldier and hopefully this will be overturned in your favor.
If you aced ever other question, there is no reason to hold up your promotion. If nothing else, you should have been promoted and been given some WOKE counseling.
Good luck to you soldier and hopefully this will be overturned in your favor.
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This command seems to be very weak in leadership to cave to a social experiment. My 20 years in USMC this was not tolerated but towards the last of my 20 years I was pretty sure this was going to take place, and it has.
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Just go with what biology dictates, and you can't go wrong. DEI is a thing of the past, right where it should be. There is an executive order signed by President Trump eliminating all that nonsense. Secretary Hegseth also reinforced the policy just this morning. I would consult with your chain of command to right this wrong.
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I feel you should send this up the chain of command for review since with the change in leadership from the top down in this country has reset the buffer on all this "gender confusion" crap.
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OMG what the hell is wrong with you just be your self stop trying to be someone you’re not your a United States soldier .
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That's the problem with the military today. Too much emphasis is put on wokeness instead of mission readiness. A fellow retiree asked me if I would go back in if they promised to promote me upon reenlisting. No way in hell. Why would I want to deal with this crap? What do you do the first time you get a male airman in your office crying because someone called them the wrong pronoun and they're deeply offended and upset? Can't just tell them to man up and get the hell out of your office. What a bunch of crap!
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You have a valid point. How would you have possibly knew that terminology was a factor in promotion.
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Wow. I am very glad I served my three years when men were soldiers and women were WACS. There was never a question of gender mis- identification. I remember one New Years Eve we apprehended all six of the WACS assigned to the post, all were intoxicated and combative. It was really funny. I only hope that both Russians and the Chinese PLA give us points for being politically correct. It just seems that the Army has forgotten what its basic mission is, rather than an organization to promote social change.
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