Posted on Apr 4, 2014
Can I call myself a vet? I never completed training due to injuries during and before service.
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First of all thank you for taking that first step to sign on the line to give your life to this great nation. Not everyone is capable of doing that. Second of all, I am truly sorry you were injured when you were so close to finishing your AIT training. That would truly suck.
As for calling yourself a veteran, I would say yes, but I would think also it is whatever makes you feel comfortable about calling yourself too. You have your DD214, it shows your amount of time in service, it also states why you were discharged. You may or may not be able to get VA benefits, but that is up to them to decide, not any one else, and especially on this forum.
A lot of these service members and veterans are so gun ho on how this or that works or how this is the way it's supposed to be instead of the way it really is they cannot see the whole picture.
So, from me to you, and from what I read that a 1SGT and others as well have said......you are a VETERAN. Be Proud of that status.
As for calling yourself a veteran, I would say yes, but I would think also it is whatever makes you feel comfortable about calling yourself too. You have your DD214, it shows your amount of time in service, it also states why you were discharged. You may or may not be able to get VA benefits, but that is up to them to decide, not any one else, and especially on this forum.
A lot of these service members and veterans are so gun ho on how this or that works or how this is the way it's supposed to be instead of the way it really is they cannot see the whole picture.
So, from me to you, and from what I read that a 1SGT and others as well have said......you are a VETERAN. Be Proud of that status.
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I'm not sure how it is with other branches, but in the Army you are not technically a Soldier, let alone a Veteran, until you have passed BCT; you are a Civilian in BDU's/ACU's or whatever the uniform is now. That, along with the whole 180 days of service beyond training regulation means that the answer is no, you are not a Veteran.
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Let the VA make the call if you were injured are had pre existing conditions they will let you know because of your medical problem you had when you was in.
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Bottom line, there are several definitions of "Veteran" out there, some legal, some perceptual. The legal ones pretty much stipulate what, how long, exit pedigree, etc. primarily for the purpose of benefits determination. Others are perceptual; some not very polite. There are those who feel volunteer for one day, you're good to go. On the other end, if you don't qualify for joining VFW, you're not a real Vet. I might have been in your shoes if I didn't go ENL/OFF route in the Navy. I initially went to West Point and they tossed me at the end of Beast Barracks because they didn't like my eyes. Got a DD-214 and Cert for Honorable Discharge. So I'd presume I wouldn't be a Vet for the purposes of a benefit. I never needed to try and figure that one out because it was OBE.
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When I worked for the VA, we provided a benefits briefing to every Soldier that was separating during OSUT, regardless of the reason for the separation. I would submit for benefits and let the VA decide. When I made my earlier lost I was quoting general VA guidance, so i would let them determine whether or not you are entitled to veteran status.
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PV2 (Join to see)
Its been 10 years since in my many moves I've lost alot of my paper work. Things like my dd214.
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PFC (Join to see)
PV2 (Join to see) - you can always go request one from the St. Louis archives. They can direct where you can request a certified copy of your dd214. Don't let a lost form keep you from trying to see if you qualify or not. Once you get your copy, take that as well, as birth certificate, drivers license, a local bill, social security card and anything else that you can think of to take with you to your local VA hospital and go to their admissions to see if you qualify. They will give you an answer right then and there. Plus they will take your picture for your ID card. Don't wait around, go into the hospital directly. Otherwise you will be waiting forever for an answer.
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No actually you CANNOT call yourself a vet! Back when I went in the first time right out of H.S. I decided around the end of tech school, the military was not for me. I was in for just under a year & I received a General under Honorable. I wasn't considered a vet nor did I have benefits. Thankfully I ended up going back in yrs later!
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FA Nate Russell
Pvt Frieda Goldstein - I fought for a second opinion to try and stay in. I ended up getting out and I miss it every single day. I where graphic tee's that show my pride, but no right minded service member would flaunt what in your case appears to be a "big f u" to all of us who actually joined to serve the greatest country there ever will be.
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To answer if you are a veteran, I honestly don't know.<br><br>Did you receive a DD214? If the answer to that is yes, then my guess is that you are a veteran, at least insofar as the U.S. government is concerned.<br><br><br><br>
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BY the rule and letter of context concerned, yes. I was same situation until I rejoined as a Guard member.
To be able to look another SM in the eye and tell them you are a full fledged veteran, I d be very careful about that considering its a very tight knit group. By our definition of a veteran, I would say no.
No offense to you at all.
To be able to look another SM in the eye and tell them you are a full fledged veteran, I d be very careful about that considering its a very tight knit group. By our definition of a veteran, I would say no.
No offense to you at all.
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CPT (Join to see)
An OTH disqualifies you for veteran benefits whether you have 20 days or 20 years.
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CPT (Join to see)
Pvt Frieda Goldstein - Really?! That was quite an outburst. When I first joined in 1987, I was kicked out in 1989. I had an OTH, misconduct characterization, and an RE Code of 4. I was denied all veterans benefits. Of course it was 89, and I was healthy when I got out, so didn't need the VA. I was denied Chap 30 GI Bill. Apparently experiences differ. But a couple things:
1. I have served, been in 15 years now.
2. With you quick jump to conclusion, and angry, vitriolic outburst, it's clear as to why you were chartered.
The story of how I got back in is for another day.
1. I have served, been in 15 years now.
2. With you quick jump to conclusion, and angry, vitriolic outburst, it's clear as to why you were chartered.
The story of how I got back in is for another day.
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LTC Kevin B.
Pvt Frieda Goldstein - If you're going to use this site, please adhere to the standards of conduct expected within this community. You can read through them here:
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