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I passed the board recently and now im being told i may have to be a CPL until i go to BLC or until i get back from ranger school. I dont want to take responsibility as a team leader and still get paid as a SPC. Can i deny a 4187 ?
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Wondering WHY you prepared and bothered to go in front of promotion board and do not want to take responsibility for the rank promotion, yet apparently going Ranger school??? You should have informed your COC that you feel you are not ready for promotion to the next rank at this time prior to appearing before the board. Same with Ranger school, if your not ready for responsibility of SGT rank, you should absolutely not go to Ranger school at all at this time. If you are not able to fill this position, let someone else have it finish up your term with honorable discharge, hit the civilian work force, they are hiring everywhere!
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If you worked for me you would remain a SPC until discharge or retirement.
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I say go to your CSM and Bn Co and tell them about how you feel. I am sure they will take care of you appropriately.
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Short answer: You can.
Longer answer: I urge you to not do this. Strongly! This will feel like a slap in the face of people who are saying that they believe in you. Don't look at this as a burden. Look at this as an opportunity to learn, and gain some valuable experience. Yes, your unit might be trying to get some NCO work out of you without having to give you NCO pay. Let that establish your own standards. Eventually, you will be in a position to influence whether a unit expects people to work without the benefit of the pay, and you will be able to tell them all about it, from your own experience. To get there, you will need to have this experience. Learn. Advance. Lead.
Longer answer: I urge you to not do this. Strongly! This will feel like a slap in the face of people who are saying that they believe in you. Don't look at this as a burden. Look at this as an opportunity to learn, and gain some valuable experience. Yes, your unit might be trying to get some NCO work out of you without having to give you NCO pay. Let that establish your own standards. Eventually, you will be in a position to influence whether a unit expects people to work without the benefit of the pay, and you will be able to tell them all about it, from your own experience. To get there, you will need to have this experience. Learn. Advance. Lead.
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There is stupid and then there is stupid on an epic level. Congratulations, you made epic level.
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I don't see why you cannot turn down the promotion. I turned down a promotion to SGt. because I was getting out in a couple of weeks, and did want to go through all the work for the promotion and getting the strips sworn on (expensive).
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TSgt Tommy Amparano
I would be more worried about taking the strips from someone else that earned them and will be saying in.
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This appears to be something new. soldiers do not want to be NCOs. This appears to be a crimp in the system. Why would soldiers be intimidated by authority. Commanders need to address this
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yes you can I did I said if I was going to be an NCO your going to pay me. I went from E-4 SPC to SFC in 4 short years. I saw the guy that was my team leader take a corporal position and he was in the same position when I made SFC. I believe that is a war time rank to make you an NCO while waiting on your promotion not someone you can put in charge of mopping the floors and have him scrub the toilets as needed. Be an NCO or not lateral promotions are BS
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