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I passed the board recently and now im being told i may have to be a CPL until i go to BLC or until i get back from ranger school. I dont want to take responsibility as a team leader and still get paid as a SPC. Can i deny a 4187 ?
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That would not be a wise move. Your leaders see potential in you or they would have passed you by.
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All Soldiers Now Must Serve As Corporals Before Promotion to Sergeant
Current corporals will need to qualify for promotion and complete BLC or else they will be reassigned as specialists.
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SGT (Join to see) ... the Army is looking to add more Corporals to its ranks. It is making promotion to Corporal mandatory: https://www.armytimes.com/2021/06/07/all-soldiers-must-now-serve-as-corporals-before-promotion-to-sergeant/
All soldiers must now serve as corporals before promotion to sergeant
In a new change to promotions, junior enlisted soldiers will now need corporal time before they can become sergeants.
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I was a l/cpl non-promotable in a Ssgt billet. You do the job you're assigned. If you are already selected and put in the billet it sounds like someone thinks highly of you. Or bail, and turning down a promotion is a career ender.
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Let's break this down a bit. You went to and passed the E-5/SGT promotion board. Congratulations young man. Big hurdle right there in starting your career. Since you are a CPL, how is it that you sign your name in with a profile SGT Josh H? Looking at the date on this post I am guessing that you got promoted to SGT. Next question is WHY it just showed up in my notices?
Never pass up extra anything to make you a step above your peers. Go to the NCO of the Month Boards. BDE, Post. Win a few of those and find an NCO who is an Audie Murphy member and pick their brain. Tell your PSG, 1SG you want to go to that board and ask for help for study material. Then go. IF you don't succeed the 1st time, go again. Ask for jump school. Air Assault school. Become what we call HIGH SPPEED. Know your job and the next position up. You are the trainer.
Suck it up buttercup, NCO's jobs aren't a check the block to do list with a criteria for extra pay incentives. Get your head out of that mode of thinking. None of us have gotten "extra" pay for the extra responsibilities we took on. It's a learning tool. IF you can't handle that, then your wasting tax payers money and your NCOs and Soldiers time.
Never pass up extra anything to make you a step above your peers. Go to the NCO of the Month Boards. BDE, Post. Win a few of those and find an NCO who is an Audie Murphy member and pick their brain. Tell your PSG, 1SG you want to go to that board and ask for help for study material. Then go. IF you don't succeed the 1st time, go again. Ask for jump school. Air Assault school. Become what we call HIGH SPPEED. Know your job and the next position up. You are the trainer.
Suck it up buttercup, NCO's jobs aren't a check the block to do list with a criteria for extra pay incentives. Get your head out of that mode of thinking. None of us have gotten "extra" pay for the extra responsibilities we took on. It's a learning tool. IF you can't handle that, then your wasting tax payers money and your NCOs and Soldiers time.
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I Know In The USCG You Can Decline Your Promotion, Yet, By Denying Your Advancement to the Next Pay Grade , You Will Be Ineligible for Advancement for at Least 3 Years. I do not Recommend this course of action.
I Have Taken Many Jobs that were one pay grade higher than my Rank, I did not complain when I Received My Orders, I just accepted my Orders Them.
Remember it is your job to Teach Leadership, by example, to teach Every Military Member How to do there Job, How to be a better Corporal than you were a better SSG, a better leader, than you are today, to make your service better than it was when you Join. so you know you have left your Friends in Good Hands when you decide to get out, or retire.
Remember you are Training Your Replacements, this why it is so important to have high standards and Pride in service and Military Uniform Appearance, it Goes Back to the Old Adage Aim Small Miss Small, or you can Use the Law Enforcement Adage of the Broken windows Theory.
This goes back to where some of your Senior Leadership Personal are saying they would Pull there Recommendation for your Advancement, if they were sitting on your Board, you are Most Likely asking Why?
the answer is simple, By The Question You Asked It shows You are not ready, you are to Immature.
a more Secure Man, a More Mature Leader would have Jumped all over this advancement without Question . so to Answer your Question, By Asking This Question You are Most Likely Not Ready for Advancement up to Corporal.
I Have Taken Many Jobs that were one pay grade higher than my Rank, I did not complain when I Received My Orders, I just accepted my Orders Them.
Remember it is your job to Teach Leadership, by example, to teach Every Military Member How to do there Job, How to be a better Corporal than you were a better SSG, a better leader, than you are today, to make your service better than it was when you Join. so you know you have left your Friends in Good Hands when you decide to get out, or retire.
Remember you are Training Your Replacements, this why it is so important to have high standards and Pride in service and Military Uniform Appearance, it Goes Back to the Old Adage Aim Small Miss Small, or you can Use the Law Enforcement Adage of the Broken windows Theory.
This goes back to where some of your Senior Leadership Personal are saying they would Pull there Recommendation for your Advancement, if they were sitting on your Board, you are Most Likely asking Why?
the answer is simple, By The Question You Asked It shows You are not ready, you are to Immature.
a more Secure Man, a More Mature Leader would have Jumped all over this advancement without Question . so to Answer your Question, By Asking This Question You are Most Likely Not Ready for Advancement up to Corporal.
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The rank is the reward. Just frock it until it you meet the rest of the requirement. You know how they say dress for the job you want not the job you have. Also, you will have more time in rank which may beneficial down the road.
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Don't take the promotion! Show your supervisors you are not a leader and should not have been recommended for a promotion. It is an honor to have earned another stripe.
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1st off-let me say--I was extremely PROUD to earn my Corporal Stripes. It wasn't given often in my unit (4 years there was only one other) and it was a sign that the Command respected me and my Leadership and was giving me that recognition.
2nd--Anyone else notice that Trooper Harrison lists his rank as SGT already?
BTW--Great Break on the Beret. Legs never seem to get that crease right.--13F 1/320 & 1/325 AATW!!!
2nd--Anyone else notice that Trooper Harrison lists his rank as SGT already?
BTW--Great Break on the Beret. Legs never seem to get that crease right.--13F 1/320 & 1/325 AATW!!!
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I also passed the board had that responsibility of CPL without the raise and pay. It's literally offers NO value to the receiver of said title.
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