Posted on Sep 30, 2020
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My commander won’t sign my da31 and I’m a week out from my deros and All my HHG have been picked up and I’ve finished clearing. I also have a ETP signed by the division commander stating that my replacement is on ground.
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You cannot be extended in Korea as long as you have enough time on your contract to receive orders to return. Commanders cannot involuntarily extend tours. A Captain cannot override the Commanding General of HRC

You need your DA 31 for your levy packet, if he refuses to sign yours then you need to bring that up to your CSM or IG. However you will not be leaving on your DEROS. Your DEROS is only used by HRC to determine your report month to your next assignment; it’s not the day you have to leave by, and it will be adjusted once you turn in your leave form
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SGT (Join to see) that’s not an extension. Tour extensions are in whole months. Your command is only required to give you enough time to meet your report date to your next assignment
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Also my flight is one day after my deros.
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SGT (Join to see) your DEROS is irrelevant, it’s just an arbitrary date used by HRC. What is relevant is your report date to your next assignment. As long as you make your report date your commander can withhold any leave other than travel days. When you submit your DA31 your DEROS will be updated to reflect the day you are flying out, even if that means you have to change your flight.
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FWIW, I left on my DEROS date.
I also had to physically get my PCS orders 10 days before my DEROS. I got my orders, made my air travel arrangements, and my HHG pick-up within 10 minutes of eachother. I went back to work at the BDE TOC, told my OIC that I was leaving Korea in 10 days and had to clear, he told me to GTFOH and clear. 10 days later, I was indeed sitting at Osan AFB, waiting on my Patriot Express flight home.
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A company commander doesn’t have the authority to keep people in Korea. Open door your way up the chain, if no avail go to IG. I’ve seen IG reports conclude in less than a week. Leaders have been playing too many games lately!! Soldiers come first, they see when y’all are just chasing those top blocks! So sick of this crap.
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Also, the commander doesn’t decide enlisted personnel moves. That’s discussion between 1SG And CSM.
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SSG Paul Headlee
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When I was a PFC my losing unit Commander would not approve my DA-31 because I had requested 45 days PCS leave. He would only approve 2 weeks. His argument was that I would forget how to do my job. I'm not going to get into how ludicrous that was here. I was kind of P.O.'d though. One of the Sergeants pulled me aside and told me to just take the 2 weeks now and call the gaining replacement depot to extend it for as long as I liked. Worked out great for everyone involved. My situation was a bit different than yours but neither Commander wanted to sign the form. Don't burn your bridge with this guy because you may run into him again. Try to make a smooth transition out of there. Best of luck to you!
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SSG Casualty Operations Ncoic
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While this may be a local policy type of thing, but while in the 82nd, Company Commanders could only approve up to 29 days of leave. 30-59 days was BN Commander. 60+ days was BDE Commander. I don't know if that applied in your case, or the original poster's case, but it might have. Who knows?
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SSG (Join to see) Yeah its been so long. Speaking of local policy, when I was at Ft Riley the first time, the CG's policy for saluting W.O.s was that we didn't. I was programmed for failure, lol!
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SSG Paul Headlee - While deployed to Kandahar Airfield (KAF) A'Stan, the standing NATO order was that if you weren't a COL or above, you didn't get a salute. That was nice, as my job description didn't take me around too many Full Birds.
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SSG (Join to see) My first C.O. would have worried that you'd forget how to salute.
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