Posted on Feb 27, 2014
PFC Kyle Corcoran
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I have been collecting disability compensation from the VA since October 2012 and I am also using my Post 9/11 GI Bill to attend college. I really miss the camaraderie and brotherhood I felt while in the military. I really want to join the Army reserves or the National Guard so I can still attend college but be part of the military again. Would I have to cancel all of my disability compensation? Is that even possible? Some one help me out. Thanks.
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CPT Mike Sims
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Kyle,
Don't do it! You will be required to pay back every dollar you earn in the reserves or Guard back to the VA!!! Not worth it. It is also not worth the risk of having a Toxic Leader who may jeopardize your career inside the military or outside - and you can be certain that if a medical issue keeps you from being at drill on time, missing drill or not performing well on a PT test - leaders in the Guard or Reserve (some who may not have deployed), will likely not care and will likely write you up and process you for malingering or a multitude of other things - which could lead to an other than honorable discharge or separation. Be proud of your service already, join the VFW and/or American Legion if you seek to reconnect with a brotherhood and camaraderie. Also, if you are considering other civilian careers, don't take a chance on letting the military cause you further injury or time away from a career that you should be totally devoted to. Hope this helps and best of luck!
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CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret)
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I am a drilling reservist and have a 100% rating by the VA. I drill for points only (except for a couple days during the year to keep my deficit that accrues down - for SGLI). Yes, you can be rated by the VA and serve in a TPU. Regarding retention: It's based on several things to include the potential of a med board (mine retained me). The minimum retention standard is as follows: You can qualify with your weapon, wear your LCE, wear a helmet and pass an APFT or alternate APFT (if med boarded). Bottom line: Each year (FEB - MAR) the VA will send you a letter that states they know you drilled for XX amount of days. If they skip you a year, they'll get you for two years. They go by FY, not CY. You and your commander will fill out the back, which will determine how many days you drilled for pay. You send it back to the VA. The VA will then withhold your check until that amount is repaid.

Note: If you are filing for disability or already have a rating, USE AN ADVOCATE - Don't try to deal with the VA directly. I go through Disabled American Veterans (DAV). You can pick your own advocate but I strongly recommend DAV.
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SGT Shannon Ritzert
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I was wounded in OIF 1 in a combat fight with a RPG blast. I was honorably D/C from the Army and am at a 100% combat related disability. I have since obtained my education as an RN. In the service I was a MP. I am trying to get my PMHNP now and work with wounded vet's mental health. It has been very hard to get clinical's for school purposes and have been considering re-joining in a reserve status to gain connections and clinical experience. I am worried about losing my service connection if I do this though.
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CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret)
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SGT Shannon Ritzert - You are compensated by the VA for your injuries, not an inability to work like social security disability. You could get back in assuming they would take you (the Army has different rules for medical personnel - might be doable). The main thing is you can't collect VA money and military pay at the same time - you could do it for points only (like I do) or simply bank the reserve pay and pay it back when the VA collects annually. If you came back in you will NOT lose your 100% comp. I am 100% myself since 2007 and I'm still serving. I'm also collecting social security disability (I don't get paid by the Army so I have no "earnings" - points only and social security knows this). If you weren't in the medical field I'd say you have little chance of getting back in but since you're talking medical - check it out. Go see a recruiter or two. Is there a medical unit near you? You might want to see them as well. Have you considered working for the VA as an intern? That's something else you may want to look at.
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SGT Shannon Ritzert
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CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret) - The purpose would be to gain the experience. I will look into it. I have looked into the VA but they are very hard to get into with out experience within the field. Because all of my current experience is in ICU and ER I do not match their standard for a mental health nurse... Kinda suck's
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CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret)
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SGT Shannon Ritzert - Well, check out the Reserves or Guard. If you can get your foot in the door...
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SGT Supply Clerk/ Armorer
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The National Guard will take you as long as you are rated 60% or less, and provided your disability does not hinder you in your job perform or APFT.

In 2010 I left AD and joined the OKANG, after joining the VA rated me at 60%. I drew both, a Drill check and VA Compensation check. At the beginning of the fiscal year the VA would stop my Compensation till they recouped their money for the year. 2013 and 2014 the VA suspended my Compensation since I gave them a copy of my Deployment Orders. Mid 2014 I returned home and I started receiving VA Compensation at the 60% rating and my Drill Checks once again. In the fall of 2015 my VA rating increased to 100%. At 100% I drill for retirement points only because my two day Drill check doesn't come close to the VA Competition for the same time. Because of my disabilities I can't pass the APFT, so in June of this year I will ETS. I hope this helps.
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CSM Charles Hayden
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Makes sense to me, no APFT, no re-up!
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SGT Supply Clerk/ Armorer
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CSM Charles Hayden -CSM, I understand that and I'm not questioning my bar. Just stating the facts that I mentioned at the beginning of my response. A SM must be able to perform his or hers MOS and pass the APFT. That is it.
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LTC Michael Parker
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Show me the NG policy that states the VA rating must be 60% or less.
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CWO5 Tony Henriquez
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But if you are receiving disability because obviously something hurts or not functioning properly, why would you be able to join the reserves? That's waste fraud and abuse. Active duty guys can't do it, why should Guard and reserve member? We are on the same team right?
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MAJ Electronic Warfare Officer (Ewo)
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Same team - different rules
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Sgt Kelli Mays
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Yes, you can. my daughter in laws step father is in the reserves. He is collecting disability at 80%. He's in the reserves to make it to equivalent of 20 yrs so he can retire and receive retirement pay.
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SMSgt David A Asbury
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I would advise you to contact the VA regional office to confirm if you can. Not that you can not join, but  for the reason you are drawing disability pay. Also, when I ask the VA about  getting a part time job at 100%, was yes you can get a part time job but you can not get paid are large amount. So Kelli. go for it, if you can get in the Army Reserves. Remember first to find out if what you are disabled is not disqualifying at the MEPS. 
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PFC Kyle Corcoran
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Thank you for the input and Happy Veterans Day.
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SMSgt David A Asbury
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Glad to hear you added another piece of the puzzle to help others to get answers quickly. Thank you
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SFC Healthcare Provider
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The answer is Yes; However, you cannot receive military duty pay and disability pay for the same day. For example when you go to annual training that is maybe 2 to 3 weeks that's you'll see a big change unless you are have a high percentage of disability pay.
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SFC Kina Gyan
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It's very true what SSG Anisca said. What I've noticed TPU service-members who also receive VA disability compensation do is calculate the amount of battle assembly (usually 2days a month) paycheck and compare with their prorated VA compensation for 2days, and then choose whichever pays more. They the same for Annual Training as well (2/3wks).
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Ahh doing the math...
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SFC Kina Gyan
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hahahahahahahaha..hopefully, yours ain't as "fuzzy" as mine, Big Sarge..
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SGT Supply Clerk/ Armorer
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It depends what the ratings are based on, and wheather your injuries would limit or prohibit you from performing your duties. I'm in the Oklahoma National Guard, I joined two days after my terminal leave was up, they knew up front I was broke coming in. Four months later the VA rated me at 60%, they said no problem. Now five years and a deployment later the VA has rated me at 70%, and still no problem.

As for the disability compensation. Technically you can not draw both a VA check and a Military check. So that can be handled one two ways. You can continue drawing the VA check and drill only for Retirement points. Meaning no money period under M-Day status, Annual Training or Schools listed under Title 32. Or you can draw both checks and forfeit your VA check one to two months on average every year. To pay back the overage the VA gave you over the year.

I one Soldier that told the VA to cancel his disability payments which the VA did do. However when he ETS' d and he went back to the VA to restart his disability claim, he literally had to start his claim over. That is what he told me personally.

Thats my two cents, Good Luck

Richard Aldrich
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PFC Kyle Corcoran
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Good info SGT thank you.
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SGT Cannon Crew Member
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This is what I do as well... I am in the Texas Army National Guard and get regular drill pay. I will get a letter in the mail from the VA telling me that they are not going to send for "X" amount of months. The VA just does not send the money to my account until it is caught up, makes it easy for me... I just go to drill and it all works out. I have 3 years left for my 20 years in the military (8 USMC & 12 in the TXANG)
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SFC Emil Lemay
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If your state has a defense force, you can also look there. They need prior service Soldiers who have been there, done that. Lots of opportunities for cameradirie, networking, and using civilian skills.
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SPC Stewart Smith
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And how would you be able to physically and mentally be able to handle that? You are disabled now.... no? If not, then why take disability in the first place?
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SGT Ben Crowley
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I lost a leg below the knee in Afghanistan in 2005. When I med boarded out in 2006 it was right before they started letting functional leg amputees stay in if you could handle it. I tried to join the National Guard and was counseled that I would lose all my VA benefits, but the recruiter now appears he may have been misinformed.
Too bad. I am too old now but would have loved to have continued to serve.
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SFC Kina Gyan
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I'm very sorry for what happened to you in AFG, SGT Crowley, and I commend you for your undying courage and dedication to have wanted to continue to serve this great nation of ours. I also apologize for the recruiter who was too quick to turn you down, instead of doing a thorough research to ensure you were afforded every leverage and that ALL avenues were exhausted before turning you away. It's a damning admission but this has been a huge problem with recruiters since 2004. Almost all the recruiters I've come in contact with since then have only ONE objective: getting paid a lot of money (with BAH and stuff) while making the minimum effort to enlist TWO recruits per month, and doing nothing else. And all he had to do was call any MEPS center for the correct information. It's very shameful what he did and I he reads this on this platform and reach you to apologize for what he did. Again, thank you for your selfless service and it's an honor to know of a decent human being like you. God bless you and your family, the US Armed Forces, and the United States of America.
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