Posted on Feb 27, 2014
Can I join the Army Reserves or National Guard if I am currently collecting compensation from the VA?
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I have been collecting disability compensation from the VA since October 2012 and I am also using my Post 9/11 GI Bill to attend college. I really miss the camaraderie and brotherhood I felt while in the military. I really want to join the Army reserves or the National Guard so I can still attend college but be part of the military again. Would I have to cancel all of my disability compensation? Is that even possible? Some one help me out. Thanks.
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I've got two soldiers drilling with 80% and 90% disability. They have to repay their drill pay dollar for dollar so they just elected not to be paid.
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SSG Robert White
You need to check with a Reserve Recruiter, all the answers here are people's opinions and not the current regulations. Seek out a professional and don't seek answers in this forum, you will be greatly disappointed. There is an old saying "An ounce of prevention with worth a pound of cure"!. they Don't have to give up their drill pay. they have to give up their compensation for the number of days they served. So in three years it was determined you served 50 days, that is 150 days or 5 months. You'll have to give up 5 months of COMPENSATION. Check with DFAS. Don't listen to these peoples opinions. Go to the source.
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They repay their drill pay because they'll lose money on their compensation, as it is more than what they are paid per MUTA.
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SSG Robert White
You need to check with a Reserve Recruiter, all the answers here are people's opinions and not the current regulations. Seek out a professional and don't seek answers in this forum, you will be greatly disappointed. There is an old saying "An ounce of prevention with worth a pound of cure"!
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I'd give my left nut to go back to boom operating but I'd be a constant burden to my squadron with my disabilities but if yours don't keep you from accomplishing the mission then go for it. Mission and safety first!
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A question popped up in my head that made me re-read your question.... did you separate due to disability, did it influence your decision, or did you get out not expecting to want to come back in? I'm not asking for the answer to that question, just expressing what I was thinking (no HIPAA vioations for me please).
If you were disabled and that was your main reason for leaving the service, I would not recommend trying to come back in. Why make a bad situation worse and further a life long disability? If you miss the camaraderie, join one of the volunteer organizations that help the active duty members. I know it's not the same but it would put you in a position to help the people you care about without chancing furthering your disability. It could also prevent complications with VA benefits.
If you left for other reasons, speak with the VA personally along with one of the physicians regarding your specific disability. I'm sure there's some sort of a precedent where people left with a disability (not the reason they left) and re-joined the services.
If you were disabled and that was your main reason for leaving the service, I would not recommend trying to come back in. Why make a bad situation worse and further a life long disability? If you miss the camaraderie, join one of the volunteer organizations that help the active duty members. I know it's not the same but it would put you in a position to help the people you care about without chancing furthering your disability. It could also prevent complications with VA benefits.
If you left for other reasons, speak with the VA personally along with one of the physicians regarding your specific disability. I'm sure there's some sort of a precedent where people left with a disability (not the reason they left) and re-joined the services.
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SSG Robert White
Thank you sir. Without all the service organizations, their wouldn't be any VA benefits.
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YES...You can not legally collect disability AND serve in the military. If you join the Reserves or Guard, they will take away $1:$1 for each buck earned from service. So, if your collect $500 a month on disability and you collect $450 a month for your weekend drills, you will get $450 for your drill weekend (Taxed of course) and only $50 from VA disability or if you collect $1000 disability and $450 drill pay then you will get $450 taxed dollars drill pay and $550 disability, else you keep all of your va disability and drill for free, but then you set yourself up for the VA to determine that your disability has corrected itself and you will lose it all together. EVEN though you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.
You need to consider 2nd and 3rd order effects, It will affect ALL veterans on va disability because the VA will use that as fuel, so will the public, and use that to validate why vets dont need disability or make it that much harder for those that really do have a disability. DON'T be GREEDY and screw it up for those that truly do have problems because YOU want to continue to serve.
I'm sorry if I sound like a jerk or an ass, but I am a veteran advocate and it really P$$es me off when I come across those vets collecting disability and really dont have problems and yet they are trying to get even more.
You need to consider 2nd and 3rd order effects, It will affect ALL veterans on va disability because the VA will use that as fuel, so will the public, and use that to validate why vets dont need disability or make it that much harder for those that really do have a disability. DON'T be GREEDY and screw it up for those that truly do have problems because YOU want to continue to serve.
I'm sorry if I sound like a jerk or an ass, but I am a veteran advocate and it really P$$es me off when I come across those vets collecting disability and really dont have problems and yet they are trying to get even more.
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SSG Robert White
You need to check with a Reserve Recruiter, all the answers here are people's opinions and not the current regulations. Seek out a professional and don't seek answers in this forum, you will be greatly disappointed. There is an old saying "An ounce of prevention with worth a pound of cure"!
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Yes you can but it all depends on your disability rating. I had a 10% disability rating and was allowed to join the national guard. The VA deducted my training days from my VA compensation and withheld the funds. However when I got deployed to Iraq in 06 I had to sign a form waiving my VA disability benefits until I returned state side.
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SSG Robert White
You need to check with a Reserve Recruiter, all the answers here are people's opinions and not the current regulations. Seek out a professional and don't seek answers in this forum, you will be greatly disappointed. There is an old saying "An ounce of prevention with worth a pound of cure"!
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If you miss the camaraderie join a adult softball league.. It's not like you will be more than the bat boy when your on duty
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Kind of off topic, but all who are on PDRL and TDRL are subject to recall just as other retirees (we are members of the retired reserve) and IRR types. The stuff really needs to hit the fan for this to happen. Disabled Soldiers can fill many of the admin, medical, Logistics, IT, Intel, and other thinking rolls needed by the force. Combat isn't out of the question either. Remember, Lord Nelson had a missing arm whe the Brits beat the French Fleet. Gen Roosevelt was an asst. Div Commander at Normandy Beach. He walked with a cane. Last point, how many folks are on active duty but retire with some disability percentage. Do you think their disabilities happened in their last year of service?
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I work in medical case management for the national guard. They have the same medical standards as AD. If you aren't fit for duty, you aren't fit for duty, period. For those of you wondering about the VA paying compensation for something that may or may not be duty-related, he was on orders when he developed the condition. Meaning it was service- connected, even if it wasn't because of the army. NG and reserved are different. For us, if something happens while on orders, the unit has to follow up with a Line of Duty, which is just a crap-ton of paperwork, to ensure that mother army is made aware and will pay for the medical bills accrued. However, if the condition is a disease that discovered or aggravated while on orders, the military does not take responsibility. If you have to be treated or hospitalized while on orders, they will only pay for the single visit. The rest is your responsibility. If you get injured while on orders and fail to report it and later want an LOD, you'd better hope you have some medical documentation that proves it was service connected, otherwise you're SOL.
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