Posted on Feb 12, 2020
Can I tell off an Officer/NCO in my company while not at drill or on active orders?
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The soldier in question lives near me and it is not unusual to see this person at my local grocer. They have been on my case about my military license during drill, even though I score high on PT and weapons. Every time I show up to drill I discover I am not on the driver's training list and ask what I can do to get on it. They tell me just to hurry up and wait, yadayada. That I will get on it eventually. But this soldier is constantly telling me that I'm in the wrong about this on and off work.
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If someone is harassing you, try to handle it between you two. If he is harassing when not at drill, you can just ignore him. If it's an issue, tell someone higher in your chain. If you have gone up keep going higher - like if you told your PSG, tell the 1SG next time you're at drill.
If this happens when you're not at drill and you're just minding your own business at the store, tell him to leave you alone. If he keeps harassing you, call the police. I would if someone was harassing me no matter if they were in my chain or not. Even more so if I was National Guard or Reserve and not at drill and someone with a complex harassed me when not at drill or on orders.
If this happens when you're not at drill and you're just minding your own business at the store, tell him to leave you alone. If he keeps harassing you, call the police. I would if someone was harassing me no matter if they were in my chain or not. Even more so if I was National Guard or Reserve and not at drill and someone with a complex harassed me when not at drill or on orders.
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If it is about service related manners and you've line up your ducks, conduct yourself as a calm rational professional adult, I wouldn't mind discussing any military issue. But I wouldn't mind that even during the drill period as long as there was not some over-riding need to focus on something else. Keep in mind that when the senior says "we're done," the best course is to politely walk away.
The same should hold true in the civilian world when this soldier constantly tells you that you're in the wrong about this on and off work." He/she regardless of rank should conduct them self as a calm rational professional adult, and if you tell them you really don't want to discuss it at that time and that place, they should respect your wishes.
If you think it is a no ranks, emotional, disrespectful, bitch session where you get to let off some steam and then claim that you get a "free pass" because "we're "Jody and Jack back on the block," be prepared to find out that being a jerk is never free.
The same should hold true in the civilian world when this soldier constantly tells you that you're in the wrong about this on and off work." He/she regardless of rank should conduct them self as a calm rational professional adult, and if you tell them you really don't want to discuss it at that time and that place, they should respect your wishes.
If you think it is a no ranks, emotional, disrespectful, bitch session where you get to let off some steam and then claim that you get a "free pass" because "we're "Jody and Jack back on the block," be prepared to find out that being a jerk is never free.
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I would caution you to tell anyone off. Ask yourself, are the repercussions worth it?
Also, the fact that just correlated your high PT and Weapons scores to ability and potential shows that you probably don't understand the "Whole Soldier Concept" and there are some underlying issues that is causing you to be treated the way you are.
Also, the fact that just correlated your high PT and Weapons scores to ability and potential shows that you probably don't understand the "Whole Soldier Concept" and there are some underlying issues that is causing you to be treated the way you are.
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SFC David Johnson
You need to ask yourself, is the military license required to be MOSQ, such as MP, Truck driver or Fueler? If this is the case then send an email to the training NCO and cc your squad leader. This will cover you backside because you would then have a record of your willingness to train.
Living in the same community as your NCO and running into them after hours or off duty is common for many soldiers. There is a line between harassment and asking what’s your status. Make sure your are not making a mountain out of a molehill. If you still feel it is harassment, take your email and encore that you are truly attempting to attend the drivers training and take it to the next supervisor in line. Then you can bring up the after hour /off duty issues.
Living in the same community as your NCO and running into them after hours or off duty is common for many soldiers. There is a line between harassment and asking what’s your status. Make sure your are not making a mountain out of a molehill. If you still feel it is harassment, take your email and encore that you are truly attempting to attend the drivers training and take it to the next supervisor in line. Then you can bring up the after hour /off duty issues.
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