Posted on Apr 22, 2017
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Had an interesting moment where in a soldier had me direct dial his BN CMD while correcting him about him wearing black lipstick, earrings, finger jewlery and ripped pants.

The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.

As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
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SSG Mark Matteson
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Whatever happened to the Soldier 24/7 rules we all lived by? Sad that our military has gone this way.
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SPC Al Lohn
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Has the Army gone nuts??? Is that even a question???
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SPC Kevin Pora
SPC Kevin Pora
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Right on Specialist!!!
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1SG First Sergeant
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Actually with the new updates male Soldiers are now allowed to wear earrings while in civilian clothing OFF duty. I do not have the regulation in front of me so I do not know the date of 670-1 but I actually briefed my Soldiers on this a few weeks back. As far as nail polish that is still a no-go and the ripped clothing you would have to refer to local post policies. For example Fort Benning does not allow the wear of tank tops unless you are at your place of residence or in a fitness facility. Hope this helps
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MSgt Roger Hoyle
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No. The military is not the place for male lipstick. Get another career field somewhere else.
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1SG Charles Simpson
1SG Charles Simpson
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Cynthia Croft - First off, salute to your father. This is not about a dress code only. All soldiers must be disciplined and trained to act as one body in battle and it is that discipline and training that keeps us alive and safe. If we revert to being individuals, we will never win because dead soldiers can hold only that plot of ground that covers him.
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1SG Charles Simpson
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Cynthia Croft - It is all about winning the battle to protect the country and/or the free world. There is no right guaranteed to anyone to serve in our military forces nor is there a requirement for anyone to do so. When the civilian makes the free choice to enlist and serve, the team, the battle and the preservation of world civilization then there is no room left for that individual to question established discipline required to perform the mission
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SFC Transfer Specialist / Precert Nurse
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This issues has been brought up many times. So I will not re-comment on the same things that all these NCOs have stated other then refer to AR 670-1. This change came out in 1998 or 1999. The the bigger issues it the new soldiers coming in the military aren't being properly instructed and reinforce​d. Team leader and squad leaders need to re enforce the meaning of regulations and good order and discipline. Leadership needs to be more involved with this newer kinder gentler Army.
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1SG James Lyon
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Leaders have a responsibility to enforce regulations through on the spot corrections. On the spot corrections are the basis for good discpline. Just because we have been directed to allow LGBT in the military does not mean that the appearance standards have changed or need to change. In order to make valic corrections the leader must 1. know what the standard actually is 2. Have the bearing that will motivate the soldier to make the correction and 3. Have the sense of duty to ensure that the correction is made. The military is only as good as the leaders at every level make it not just the ones on top.
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SFC Alvis Petrey
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We use to have real men in the Military. I spent 20 years in the US Army and never heard of the bs that goes on now.
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SSgt James Tadlock
SSgt James Tadlock
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I see your name and think Elvis Presley
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SFC Alvis Petrey
SFC Alvis Petrey
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Thank you for the compliment But it"s Alvis. Glad to meet you SSgt Tadlock.
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SSgt James Tadlock
SSgt James Tadlock
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I didn't mean that in a negative way. Just the name immediately struck me. Elvis or Alvis are kind of unusual. Glad to meet you too.
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SSgt Bruce Wood
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That should fall under the offence of conduct unbecoming of a Marine. I don't know how other branches should handle. I know when stationed in Hawaii we had a Corpal go to a nude beach and got his buttock extremely sunburned that he could not wear his uniform and he was charged with indecent exposure and conduct unbecoming of a Marine.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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I heard of a LTC, RA ‘advisor’ visiting a nude beach.

Not want to expose himself completely, he covered one body part with a Bull Durham bag!!
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SSG Raymond Minze
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I've been retired for 15 years now, so I don't know what the current regulations say. However, I do know one think has, NOT CHANGED; when it comes to local Command Policies. A Commander can add to a regulation through Command Policies, but they CANNOT take away from any military regulations.
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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I look at it as a no -brainer.. why would a person want to do that? Are they missing civilian life that much? Reads like inability to adapt to Military ... When I joined I was already programmed.. I knew there were things I had to give up.. I was ready to. To me wearing the uniform of our country was an honor and I would represent my service and country wherever I went. Which meant behaving in a way that would bring credit to my uniform and country. And when not wearing it I would still be a representative and still conduct my self as would be expected as if i were in uniform. When in the AFJR.O.T.C. I always tried to remember what was expected in and out of uniform. There were guys I knew in school that had tried the J.R.O.T.C. I emphasized that even their conduct out of uniform needed to be above reproach... People see you out of uniform and when they see your conduct is about the same they will credit those that trained you. And if your conduct is negative they will think more needs to be done... I surmised they thought their life was done for if they stayed with it.. a few stayed a few years... and some were gone before that first trial time was over... I seen some that never got with it and they just existed, just mosey along
Through life.. no direction.. I just couldn't see myself like that.. I wanted the guidance and what the R.O.T.C. and the AF would teach me. .
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
SSgt Boyd Herrst
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Oh yeah.. lip gloss an some other femme wear was not In my repertoire.. so don’t even go there !
Geez !
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
SSgt Boyd Herrst
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re: “things I had to give up”...
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