Posted on Apr 22, 2017
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Had an interesting moment where in a soldier had me direct dial his BN CMD while correcting him about him wearing black lipstick, earrings, finger jewlery and ripped pants.

The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.

As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
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Sometimes, I really wonder why individuals join a team organization which requires uniformaty, customs, and structured rules since the 1800's. That, they think that some of the infractions are ok and question you or make you the bad guy because you have intergrity to pump the brakes. There is other terminology I want to use but this is not the place, so I will conclude with YIKES!!!! So not ok by any means. Hopefully, others will post a more educated reply. Good Luck
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SFC Dean Allen
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The answer to every such question needs to be, is this good for discipline, morale, esprit de corps, and will it support the goal of the unit working as a team to more effectively accomplish the missions they are assigned. Anything that interferes with that goal, is inappropriate whether specifically excluded in a regulation or not.

If you want to dress like a girl, go join the Girl Scouts, you probably do not belong in this man's Army.

A soldier is responsible for his conduct, on duty, or off. He should always consider the effect of everything he does on unit cohesion and mission effectiveness. General George S. Patton said it best "An Army is a team. . . " I could quote many other ways General Patton expressed the same thought but I don't know if all that language is allowed in this forum.
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SSG Eric Haines
SSG Eric Haines
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SPC(P) (Join to see) - Here's the problem: When a person joins any branch of the military, they give up some of their Constitutionally protected rights. For example, your right to free speech is sharply curtailed. I know that I sometimes balked at not being able to express my political views. I just would remind myself that when I retired, I could then say whatever the hell I wanted to about whatever politician I wanted to. In the Army we have a saying- When you raise your hand to swear the oath, and sign your name on the line, you get the chance to become a Soldier. If you make the cut, you are a Soldier 24/7!! Your life is no longer your own. Until you fulfill your obligation, you belong to Uncle Sugar. Don't like it, cuz you wanna play dress up with all the other chai boys? Too bad. Either suck it up and drive on, or get the hell outta my Army with that BS.
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Maj John Bell
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SPC (Join to see) - There is a difference between disliking and discriminating. Exactly of what discrimination are you accusing SPC Tj Fleischmann.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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SPC (Join to see) - There are fashion statements that are practical. There are fashion statements that are affectations designed to attract attention and provoke thought. When an affectation provokes legal but negative thought... you have to take the tail with the hide. So yes I consider a male wearing make up an extreme affectation and I consider it plain wrong. I'll be fair, courteous, and polite; but in the absence of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I'll seek social contact elsewhere. And no its not homophobia, its gothophobia.
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SFC Caretaker
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Ok let's stop right their! I'm all for flaming individuals and their rights and your personal choice! A lot of these individuals make outstanding soldiers! But NO! I do not agree when a female soldier off duty on base dresses like a $2 hooker! And I do not agree that a male dresses like the damn crow with no hair!

I hate to be controversial, but the buck has to stop somewhere! if your going to a crazy club where you dress like this then ok that's one thing. But save the on base costumes for Halloween and Mardi Graw if your stationed out that way!

Uniformity is a time honored tradition! Your part of legacy! You should be honored to be a part of.
Just my thoughts on this subject!
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SPC Roberto Figueroa
SPC Roberto Figueroa
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SGT Andrew Dydasco - I was being sarcastic, if you didn't get the point. But I appreciate the "swift policing"! Dragonslayers!
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PV2 Nodal Network Systems Operators/Maintainer
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This is why I have you added on here.
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PO3 John Priest
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There's things called a gym bag, you carry the offensive clothing WELL OFF BASE, wearing clean neat clothing or the uniform of the day (no earrings). If you're on deployment on a ship, leave the <censored> lipstick, earrings and ripped clothes buried in a duffel in storage and wear clean neat clothing, again no earrings. We're representing the US here...so dress to impress, or at least look like the natives.
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SFC Infantryman
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SFC (Join to see) is in fact correct. Contracts and DoD are different
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Capt Seid Waddell
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Lord have mercy! It's not your Daddy's military any more, is it?
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LCDR Jayne Garland
LCDR Jayne Garland
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SFC Thomas Nichols - You appear to be ready to be personally offended by statements that have nothing to do with you. My point is that objecting to transgenders serving is much ado about nothing. Obviously you think otherwise.
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Angela Johnson
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I only a Mom but I agree that uniformity for both gender and life choices are a must. It keeps everyone on the same side. I always thought that was the whole point. You joined the military to defend our country so you should present yourself in a way that brings honor to the military not detracts from it. Thank you all for your service!
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PFC Automated Logistical Specialist
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I think the don’t ask don’t tell policy should be implemented again. I also believe that as professionals and soldiers we need to look as such whether on or off duty.
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SSG George Holtje
SSG George Holtje
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Its been going on for a while.
At first, the occasional goth, then a small group, then it was cool for all the cool kids.
While I do enjoy the freak show music, I could never go further than a black shirt
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