Posted on Apr 22, 2017
Can male soldiers wear lipstick, earrings and ripped clothes while off duty, but on post?
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Had an interesting moment where in a soldier had me direct dial his BN CMD while correcting him about him wearing black lipstick, earrings, finger jewlery and ripped pants.
The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.
As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.
As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
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Hey if he is willing to serve why not ...i dont see alot of people stepping up these days .
you may need this guy when the shtf i did. the least likely guy who was a crossdresser saved my life.
we never know who the real heros are until that moment cones
you may need this guy when the shtf i did. the least likely guy who was a crossdresser saved my life.
we never know who the real heros are until that moment cones
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I am retired military and for 23 years while I was active duty you represented the military 24 - 7. The military isn't or wasn't a 9-5 job. So unless the regulations have changed, what you are during your regular duty hours is what you should represent off duty. Back then even tattoos were not allowed to be shown in uniform. Being politically correct was never an issue in the military and the rules and regulations applied to everyone. It is called the Uniform Code of Military Justice for a reason. If you want to be held to a different standard don't go into the military. The military was never supposed to be a social experiment - national defense is the mission.
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If his commander had no problem with it, then you shouldn't have. Please don't try to disguise bullying with adherence to tradition.
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Hmmm, this is a really interesting question for me. I joined the Navy late, very late. I was 29 years old when I went to boot (the cutoff at the time was 34). The other recruits looked at me like I was some crazy old man, and compared to them being 17, 18 and 19, I suppose I was. Prior to joining the Navy, I was a long hair rock an roller and played in a lot of rock bands, and I do mean long haired. I could post some of those photos and you'd laugh your @#!! off. But here's the thing. The Navy didn't call me up or knock on my door and say 'hey Buddy, we'd really love it if you could come hang out with us'. I made a decision to join the Navy. And being mature (yes in spite of my rock an roll stuff I was still mature) I felt personally that I needed to follow the rules, abide by the codes, extend the respect required and deserved to my fellow military members and Officers appointed above me, and generally take it seriously. I would have never have done what was described in the posted question and I don't approve of it. Period. Here in the civilian world, I don't care if you want to do it and would never say anything about it. But if your in the service, I just don't think it's conducive to good order and discipline. Perhaps I'm old fashioned after all.
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This situation here could be a double edged sword. It could possibly be transgender phase, who knows...... but his command knows what is going on.
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SPC Charlotte Stubbs
What is a " transgender phase"? Funny they didn't cover that phase in my advance psych classes.
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SSG (Join to see)
SPC Charlotte Stubbs - a phase where the Soldier is starting slowly but surely going in the direction of identifying self as a female.... of course they won't cover it....... it's a sticky topic that people don't want to discuss or acknowledge..........
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It's my understanding under the current AR 670-1 that even off duty or while on leave/pass, if I enter a military installation, I still have to have a clean-shaven face. That being said, I'm quite confident this Soldier was WAY outside the regulation by his attire and appearance.
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I'm a play it safe and say A LOT of Soldiers haven't attended the transgender training with its multiple scenarios.
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