Posted on Apr 22, 2017
Can male soldiers wear lipstick, earrings and ripped clothes while off duty, but on post?
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Had an interesting moment where in a soldier had me direct dial his BN CMD while correcting him about him wearing black lipstick, earrings, finger jewlery and ripped pants.
The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.
As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
The CMD informed me I needed to read the regulations, which I have done so.
As far as I've read and know, there has been no update that allows male soldiers to wear this off-duty while on post.
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Styles of civilian dress are always changing. Whos to say what's acceptable as long as common decency is observed and no naughty bits are exposed. I would imagine the military has not approved of many "fashions" in the past. Zoot suits come to mind as one example. Now while in uniform, well, that's a completely different thing. Sgt John Pearson
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As I have stated before in previous posts: We all make choices and when we do we have to accept the outcomes of our choices. I have always told my troops, You interview 365 days a year! You volunteered to be a part of an organization and took an oath to obey the instructions and orders of that organization yet you want to challenge those regulations. Go ahead! Do your thing. When it's time for fit-reps and promotion recommendations do not cry and whine when you are non-selected. You have exercised your rights and now your superior will remember and exercise theirs. Just because you show up for an interview and/or counseling looking sharp and saluting smartly yet you choose to proudly deviate from the cultural norm of your Service doesn't mean you get the job. Start thinking about the bigger picture, you are not in high school anymore.
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Can they? Yes; they can. May they? Good question. If they do, then they can suffer the official and un-official consequences accordingly. As the consequences differ greatly these days, depending on the location, the personnel involved, and the cycles of the moon, I will leave it to you to suffer accordingly. I would suggest a moral compass check before you exercise your anti-social "rights" as some may react to your exercising your rights in a manner you do not wish to enjoy.
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All I can say is crazy town has now hit the military and there is no stopping it! The way the military is going I don't see the US ever winning another war! This is the more kinder, gentler and, caring military, please come to our safe space for your hugs and your shoulder to cry on!
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I read through a good number of the posts, many refer to the “good old days”. Well things were not as clear cut as many think. We had a SGT with 17 years in. When he was drafted he clearly stated he was a homosexual. Every time he reuped he says d he was a homosexual. At 16 years of enlistment he was stationed In Germany. While there he got involved as a drag Queen at local clubs. At this point the Army figured out he was a homosexual and was going to try to force him out. He quickly stated “Oh no” with some legal muscle. He had clearly and repeatedly stated his sexual preferences. His case was adjudicated and it was clear he had never hide his sexual preferences. He was allowed to finish his 20 years. I believe his case went to the Supreme Court. The good SGT worked in the medical motor pool and I knew a lot of enlisted that had worked with the SGT. So, things aren’t always really cut and dry.
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STFW!? I only witnessed female airmen with inappropriate clothing in deployment duffels. This was being done in lieu of specified and required undergarments. As a male superior I elected to have a female TSGT "explain" to the junior airmen what white underware actually meant. If this is a pervasive problem, perhaps recruiting should be involved. If this is an isolated inciident, a platoon or company 1SG should be able to "explain" the incident to the offender. Uniformality and social behavior are what are on display here. This individual is supposed to be an example of, and is representing the US Army as a warfighter. He is not doing so even when he is off duty. As an officer, I knew I was on "Parade" 24/7 and needed to set an example, even when I was at the mall with my wife watching a movie, or working under my car changing the oil. If there is no Army Reg against this, then it would fall under general conduct and grooming. If there is a resistance to conformaty, then perhaps the individual has been misplaced in National Defense and would be better served by seeking a different profession, such as a female impersenation artist. If the individual was headed to a masquerade ball or Haloween costumn party, it might be different, but if this is on his own volition, he may be like CPL Klinger of MASH fame, and attempting to leave the USA on a secition 8.
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i suppose it depends on local regulations . i never looked it up in the book . but when i was not allowed to wear my hippy clothes on post, for my own ass' welfare, i went along .
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