Posted on May 21, 2021
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Currently attending blc. Unit keeps trying to have me come in to work since they lost a peq and want 100% accountability to help look for it (been looking for it the past week). Is this allowed
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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Your place of duty is your NCOES. You need to bring this up to your SGM
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SGT Chris Stephens
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No, you are not required to go in. You are on orders to BLC. There is no regulation that allows your unit to force you to come in when you're on orders to NCOES
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SFC Retired
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Technically, you are TDY to your NCOES and fall under the command of the academy. You are assigned on orders to the school, with a report date and an end date.
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Can my unit make me come in to work while I’m attending blc?
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Your orders to BLC essentially attach you to the Academy for the duration of the course. In essence, you don't belong to your unit right now.
They are just expecting you to not fight and give in and show up because you don't know any better (units use that ploy a LOT).
I'd love to see the phone and email chain of those trying to do this. I'm guessing it went like this. "Hey, we're missing a PEQ, so call everyone in and look for it". as that filters down the chain some E5 or E6 sees that is call in everyone at school, leave, deployment, chemo, jail, taliban training camp etc to come in and look.....because they don't know how to think and are still thinking like joes...
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CW2 Electronic Warfare Technician
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SGT (Join to see) - If they're missing class hours then absent rules apply. place of duty is whatever BLC says. While off duty a Soldier COULD go to his/her unit for stuff, but they belong to the Academy during duty hours and the rules of the Commandant. If BLC says they can't leave the BLC campus, then they can't leave the campus.
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SGT Air Defense Radar Repairer
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CW2 (Join to see) Back in my day it was PLDC and we were never allowed to leave the area.
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MAJ Staff Crna
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SGT (Join to see) Ditto. Plus my PLDC was a few countries away in Bad Tolz Germany. We couldn’t have went back to our unit anyway.
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CW2 Electronic Warfare Technician
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Yep, locked down in Graf for the month....
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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To further clarify, NCO Academies and other schools on post have a memorandum of agreement, or make the unit sign a memorandum of agreement, stating that the Soldier belongs to the school house 100% during the course. This memo is submitted as part of your packet, if there isn't already a standing post policy in place. The purpose is to prevent exactly this type of thing from happening. If your unit hinders your school it can have lasting and career ending effects on a Soldier when that school is an NCOES.
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SSG Edward Tilton
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Are you a member of the unit or not?
Doesn’t sound like it
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SSG Edward Tilton
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Did someone direct you not to go to BLC?
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They are calling me in during my free time ie when I’m assigned to do assign
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SSG Edward Tilton
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They?
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Not sure it is allowed or not, but certainly shitty to make someone do... BLC requires a lot of after hours work. I would talk with you FLL and let them know of all your after hour commitments with BLC and request to not come in. However, the other side of that coin is as an NCO; the expectations is we are always ready for whatever we need to do and the workday end, when it ends... Hope it works out for you.
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While I agree with you as NCOs we have the expectation to always be ready, but in this case it would be like his unit calling you in to look for their stuff. He is assigned, on orders, to the NCOES academy. Until the end date of those orders he belongs to the NCOES academy.
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LtCol Robert Quinter
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Everyone, including myself, agrees you have no obligation to return to your unit. Now that we know that, why are you even being approached? Was the PEQ in your custody recently? Did you, by your billet, have some involvement in the circumstances surrounding the disappearance? No, you shouldn't be expected to roaming around in the boonies turning over leaves looking for it, but perhaps an hour of your time could clear up any ambiguity about your having knowledge of the PEQs disappearance. Might prevent your being tied up for a longer period of time when the person assigned to officially investigate the disappearance is assigned.
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SFC Explosive Ordnance Disposal Specialist
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NCOES is a 1059 producing school, which gives your unit the ability to account for time you spent temporarily assigned to another unit. When you are attending that school, you belong to TRADOC.

Tell your SGL, they can bring it up to the commandant.
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If you're on orders to a school, your Command should respect that, unless situation dictates otherwise. No idea on Army.
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