Posted on Feb 14, 2021
Can senior NCO’s make soldiers drive from home to a duty during harsh conditions such as frozen roads?
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Is there a regulation on this kind of stuff. I understand that a duty must be preformed such as CQ and Staff Duty. However in my mind it’s very dangerous to have soldiers who live 15+ minutes away from post to preform such duties when they can have someone who lives on base preform it. And have their duties switched up. Is there any regulation on this.
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AS A SPC you should be preparing for NCO responsibilities. This should never be a question asked by an NCO prospect. It seems you have have been promoted beyond your KSA's. Maybe going back to PVT is in order.
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I guess it would depend on what you mean by "a duty." It's not your duty to drive over to your platoon sgt's house in frozen conditions to help them cut firewood. However, if it's regular duty, then it has probably already been authorized by your commander.
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SPC(P) Brandon Jenkins
Caveat: cq duty can't be solely barracks soldiers. Pretty sure there's some kind of discrimination in there. Besides, you'll need an NCO on duty all the time. There are plenty of good pvts and spcs out there, but it's a roll of the dice to let them run the whole show. Just watch Vet TV.
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I'm not familiar with shoreside so much, but on ship we had a duty section while in port with a different duty section while at sea. Once the initial duty section was established upon entering port or getting under weigh we knew about when our duty was coming up. It was rare that something occurred where the nearest available man was required to fill in without notice. You were allowed to exchange duty with another sailor as long as they were qualified to hold the watch/duty AND you got approval ahead of time. I will say however that I really had to laugh at the idea that you should be excused duty because of "harsh conditions". Really? Think about that one just a little bit, please? When is the last time you were not aware of impending bad weather well ahead of time? Perhaps in the field, but in barracks or on base? I cannot conceive of a military family that doesn't understand the concept of Dad or Mom having to spend an extra night/day on base because of duty requirements. Forgive me also for thinking that a soldier/sailor that doesn't plan ahead for this kind of thing is either brand spanking new (ie Boot camp) to the service or just isn't too good at what they're doing. No disrespect intended.
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Hopefully not a scheduled duty because we all know that the DA6 would have it planned out and you would know you have duty ;)
It is a matter of policy on whether you drive or not. Did the roads or the Post close? If Yes, can't go. If No, then you go.
If it is in the gray area, Go. Then bitch to your PSG.
Regardless of what 1SG Luke Bradshaw says below; stay away from Pornstars.
It is a matter of policy on whether you drive or not. Did the roads or the Post close? If Yes, can't go. If No, then you go.
If it is in the gray area, Go. Then bitch to your PSG.
Regardless of what 1SG Luke Bradshaw says below; stay away from Pornstars.
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SSG Richard Hackwith
Used to be in Germany, when winter hit and the ground froze up, that's when us tankers were going to do a lot of off post FTXs. And if it rained, so what!
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If your duty was Sunday and it snowed Saturday you needed to be where you could get there Sunday. Don’t punish the one who lives on base. Period
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Sometimes it sucks to be the Sr. NCO. There you are; you need to get a facility staffed and not a lot of either time or personnel to do it. The CO wants it and it needs to get done. On top of that, you cannot do it yourself (for very practical reasons). Moreover, this is the regular duty. Nothing special, just per the position descriptions. Nobody's getting a medal for doing this, it's the expectation. Finally, the weather sucks; it sucks hard rocks! What are you going to do?
The reason that somebody on the post cannot do this might be related to would be best to do this duty. Don't forget, living off post is a something you asked for. It's Not to use as an excuse to be exempted from these duties.
The reason that somebody on the post cannot do this might be related to would be best to do this duty. Don't forget, living off post is a something you asked for. It's Not to use as an excuse to be exempted from these duties.
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CPT William Jones
I was an O3 relatively new to Germany stationed at bde hq as S2 on north side of Stutguard after about 45 days he Float bridge CO job opened and I got it. 40 miles from my gov quarters close to S2 office. 5 days after assuming command we had a 7Corp alert at 0300 hrs 1SGt Called me(I was 3 person in unit notified and I jumped in my POV and headed to my new unit drive was 45 minutes on the autobahn. I pulled in to my park place and my Jeep and driver were waiting and the area was quiet. I jumped out and told driver let’s go check the motor pool. He said I was last person there but he knew short cut and we could catch up. We did and BDE CO got me new quarters the next week. New quarters 5 min from my orderly room. Unit had max two hours from notice tone on road to staging area. We made it in 90 minutes. Time of year November. Bell rings it’s time to go to work.
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I must admit that this never happened to me in 20 of years of active service. However, I was assgned to the Garrison S1 in Virginia when we had what the locals a bad snow storm (about 6 inches of snow and ice. I went to the HQ, I was the only one who came in. I received a call from the LT who was schedule to be the SDO that the roads were iced over and that he would be late. I ran the duty roster and told him to get there as soon as he could. I relied the SDO and SDNCO and continued on with my day. Until the LT came in that afternoon I was the only one in the command group. I laughed about it because I'm from NY and am used to much more snow that we got. Yo answer your question, this is the Army we do our job regardless of weather conditions.
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If roads are red, no. If roads are green or yellow, yes. Also, if you know weather conditions ahead of time, the responsible thing to do is to request quarters on post/in barracks/temporary lodging through your CoC so that you can be present for duty. It isn't fair to others to not be there. If you can be there, and you make a small sacrifice to do that, all the better for taking care of your buddies and your commitment to your duties.
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