Posted on Feb 14, 2021
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Is there a regulation on this kind of stuff. I understand that a duty must be preformed such as CQ and Staff Duty. However in my mind it’s very dangerous to have soldiers who live 15+ minutes away from post to preform such duties when they can have someone who lives on base preform it. And have their duties switched up. Is there any regulation on this.
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SMSgt Kevin Townsend
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Where are these questions coming from? Next they'll ask, "Can senior NCO’s make soldiers do their duty during harsh conditions that exist in a war?" It may well be that the Girl Scouts would be more suited to the delicate sensibilities of those who think this way. Just a thought.
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Cpl Vic Burk
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There are two sides to a coin. Yes, you can be expected to report for duty as assigned. I got stuck with plenty of duties when other someone didn't show up just because I happen to be in the barracks and not drunk. It sucked be singled out to do this. The "no show" would get office hours (article 15) and a couple times part of the sentence was not only the fine but also having to stand my next two duties (the company commander was enlisted at one time, that helped, he understood).

The other side of the coin is find someone, anyone to swap duties with you (with approval of course) or pay them to take it for you (I never paid anyone to take mine but I let them pay me to take theirs!). Even offer to do an extra duty. If you can't find anyone, unless you want to violate and be AWOL, find a way to get in there even if you have to walk.
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SMSgt Bob W.
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Great response.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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Yes, they absolutely can. ESPECIALLY when a duty roster is pre-published. If you know you have duty on a specific day or at a specific time, it is YOUR responsibility to ensure that you are there. If that means leaving 2 hours early and driving super slow and cautious, so be it. If that means leaving before a storm and hanging out on post until your duty starts, so be it. If that means swapping with a Soldier who can get there conveniently, so be it. But it is YOUR responsibility.

That being said... Safety IS a concern for leaders at all levels, and should be taken into consideration when the mission allows. For something predictable like Staff Duty or CQ, there should be no need for anyone to adjust the duty roster - you can figure out how to get there in time (or do a swap with a battle buddy). But for last minute details, common sense should prevail. But remember, if that senior NCO tags barracks folks for that last minute area beautification detail, you have absolutely no ammo to argue when he makes all of the non-barracks folks stay late on Friday evening to do a different last minute detail - that is only balancing things out.
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1SG Ken Bedwell
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It's called a DA-6. If it's your turn, then it's your turn. Put on your big kid pants. You joined the Army! Be a Soldier and do your job!
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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Yes. Yes they can.
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1SG James Kelly
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Poor baby; how about the 1SG moves you back in the barracks so you don't have that problem?
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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Give me a break ! Its not up to others to work Your shifts and its Your responsibility to show up for duty. Between both the Military Police and a civilian Police Department and after retirement Security I still had to go to work and and work even drive in those conditions while at work. The weather is bad, leave earlier for work. There isn't even an excuse for late arrival. I.ve had short commutes and in Security longer, never missed a shift due to weather in over 50 years and still don't. Everyone has to carry their own weight and to do otherwise shows no respect for Your fellow workers. Don't show up and You will be subject to punishment under the UCMJ and if I have any sympathy its for the person that had to cover Your shift because You found an excuse not to.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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You report for duty. Also, if someone no shows for duty the next person on the roster pulls it. Unless they were injured, involuntarily incapacitated, or stuck in a serial killer’s pit putting lotion on its skin otherwise it gets the hose again, the assigned person should be considered for UCMJ.

Regulation on duty rosters is AR220-45, roster should be on a DA6.

If you were called in without notice they have to work with you on arrival. Outgoing person stays until relieved.

Substitute “duty” with “alert” or “muster” and the result is the same. Weather is only a consideration. It will not prevent duty. Ft Carson occasionally has weather where non essential personnel stay home. Commanders decide who is essential. Shift and duty personnel are always essential.
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CMSgt John Reeves
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If you are considered key and essential personnel yes they can. You leave early and do it safely.
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CW3 Joseph Lawrence
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We had a Battalion Commander once who would bury his car in a snow drift trying to get to work, and he demanded his men do the same thing. How many times I left to only two tire tracks on the road going to my duty station. I could have called and taken leave, but dedication to duty has to enter into the picture here. I realize bad roads create a hazardous situation, but your job can place you into a hazardous situation at any time. Are you going to tell the First Shirt, no, when he tells you to take that ammo to the LP. It's all about being a soldier. Civilians can be a pansy about roads and work, we soldiers can't.
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