Posted on Nov 30, 2021
Can the military take your annual leave away (Christmas block leave) if you refuse to jump?
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A bit of context . When I say refuse to jump , I mean I don't get on the plane at all. Refuse on ground before manafest . I have a back injury and they are trying to force me to jump.
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Your not helping if you feel your injury would jeopardize the misson by pulling resources to tend to injury. Seek a profile till you get better.
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Not currently. My PA refuses to see me and I have an appointment with the brigade PA the day before the jump.
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I had a profile but was denyed an extension . I just need to know if I have to refuse to jump for my own safety and we'll being my leave is fine
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MAJ Ronnie Reams - All due respect Sir, PA's are not glorified nurses, and nurses are not glorified at all. We are educated, dedicated, trained to act in any setting to save lives and not puke at the sight of someone's guts roiling out on the guerney while we frantically start at least two large bore IV lines to keep their fluids up and administer life-saving meds. The next time you sustain an injury, as I said to another poster) go see your neighborhood jiffy lube dudes and see if they can fix you up.
Apparently, rank no longer indicates education and intelligence. Or class, or tact or discretion. The comment you posted offends practically every nurse and PA who serve in our armed forces and those who work the front lines of trauma in civilian hospitals. Or who work in the more than 2000 healthcare fields. We're the ones who know how to keep patients alive. And we do it without fear or favoritism. I hope you never have to meet one of us, flat on your back and writhing in pain. You would want us to do what we do best. And that is not being glorified at all. That is being an educated professional who can save lives and just happens to be A PA or nurse. Glorified, my left butt cheek. Thanks so much for making such a kind and insightful comment, "SIR".
Apparently, rank no longer indicates education and intelligence. Or class, or tact or discretion. The comment you posted offends practically every nurse and PA who serve in our armed forces and those who work the front lines of trauma in civilian hospitals. Or who work in the more than 2000 healthcare fields. We're the ones who know how to keep patients alive. And we do it without fear or favoritism. I hope you never have to meet one of us, flat on your back and writhing in pain. You would want us to do what we do best. And that is not being glorified at all. That is being an educated professional who can save lives and just happens to be A PA or nurse. Glorified, my left butt cheek. Thanks so much for making such a kind and insightful comment, "SIR".
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If you have a legit back injury then you should have a medically approved profile. Correct?
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If you have a valid profile that prohibits you from parachuting, load bearing over a specified weight, issued by the BN PA or higher, then the answer is no. However, if your unit is in deployment cycle, and you're not missing capable, then yes, he can. You're assigned to rear detachment.
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It's been a few months. Is there an update? Did you get a new profile and further treatment? Terminate Jump Status?
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NICK.?.... As I Read Your Post, I'm Wondering "Why Didn't The Doctors Get Involved & Help Change Your MOS To A Different Field Of Operations, Or Clerical Position" ?... .I Had A Similar Situation,,,,...I Entered As A Security Specialist But Was Assigned To Many Other Duties. With Never A Change Of My Job Description. BUT, Although I Was Needed In Those Assignments, It Caused Me To Not Be Eligible For ANY Promotions Because I Wasn't Working In My Field And The CO's In Those Areas Weren't Qualified To Review Me From A Different AFSC (Army's MOS).... I Remained An E-3 For Over 3 Years With No Consideration For Promotions.... At The Completion Of My 4 Year Commitment, I Said To Myself: "FUK This, I'm OUTA Here"......
Retiring As An E-3 Isn't My Idea Of Having Being A Successful Enlistee....... DUH?
Retiring As An E-3 Isn't My Idea Of Having Being A Successful Enlistee....... DUH?
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SSG Timothy Lanham
First of al, Airborne is not an MOS. Secondly, almost every MOS can be Airborne.
I was in one of those dead end MOS. Spent 12 1/2 years as E-5.
I was in one of those dead end MOS. Spent 12 1/2 years as E-5.
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LCpl Ricky Malone III
SSG Timothy Lanham right, it's a qualification that allows you to have a different MOS, however; most people still consider a qualification an MOS or secondary MOS and simply don't realize that many can go to BAC or whatever it is depending on the branch even if you're not infantry!
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A lot of information not available on this situation. 1: is SM going through treatment and leave would postpone or interfere with treatment? 2: Is SM pending UCMJ or on Extra duty? Refusal to manifest is punishable under UCMJ for a variety of charges. Would recommend the following
1: go to your PA and ask if your injury is permanent or temporary. Then ask for a med board or to be taken off Jump status until healed (warrior transition unit maybe?)
2, go,through NCO support channel and chain of command and terminate your jump status and request transfer.
3: if your leave is denied by Commander/ request opens door with 1SG or CO and ask why.
1: go to your PA and ask if your injury is permanent or temporary. Then ask for a med board or to be taken off Jump status until healed (warrior transition unit maybe?)
2, go,through NCO support channel and chain of command and terminate your jump status and request transfer.
3: if your leave is denied by Commander/ request opens door with 1SG or CO and ask why.
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No they can't take it away. But there is a Proto Call that you can't carry over 60 days on the books unless certain circumstance apply and can carry up to 90 days. It is called Use or Lose.
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Dude, how long have you been in if you're asking this question? Yes. They can take your leave away and will do just that with a smile on their faces if they think you are challenging them. You either have medical documentation saying no jump, or you don't. If you don't, you have no leg to stand on (pardon the pun). If you do, then just know you're walking on egg shells because they'll still take your leave out of spite. If you're a good soldier, respectful, and have the documentation to back up your argument and you should be okay.
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