Posted on Mar 1, 2019
CPL Infantryman
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I have 65 days left until I ETS, I am being told by my 1sg that it is mandatory that I have to go to BLC from (brigade sgm). I was forced to put in a packet at 20:00 at night. Is this allowed? I want to focus on transitioning out of the army. Can they do this? I have never receiving a negative counseling before or any UCMJ clean record
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SSG Small Group Leader
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It’s 22 days and you will learn something. There’s even a class on SFL-TAP in the curriculum so it’s a perfect fit for ya.
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This exact same thing happened to my Soldier, same number of days, everything. He went, didn't apply himself a bit, passed, got out. Our 1SG was hoping it would light a fire under him and give him some motivation to stay in but it didn't. He got out and never did anything military related again. We both work for the TSA together and BLC hasn't impacted his life a bit.
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SP5 David Cox
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Something similar happened to me. I was short and had no intention of staying in, and my COC wanted me to go to PLDC. I resisted their "suggestions" to the point that my CSM made noises about making it an order. I did some research and found a regulation that basically said I could turn down the "opportunity" if I was within 6 months of ETS. I don't remember what reg it was, and this was in 1981, so things may have changed since then - so do your own research! If I hadn't already been so short or had any plans to stay in, it would have been a very bad move for me, as my stance on the issue seriously pissed of my CSM and his successor (who was already there waiting for the first one to retire). It would have been a career limiting move under other circumstances, so proceed cautiously!
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SGT Robert Martin
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Why would you want to avoid BLC. Most of what you learned in the Army simply has little use in the world. The skills you learn in pldc ( yes I'm that old ) on the other hand are in great demand in the civilian work force. The Army is giving you a chance to learn skills that you will use the rest of your life. Trust me accept the orders with a smile the army has given you a gift.
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CPL Brakes,
I concur with 1SG (Anonymous). You never had a negative action and you certainly don't want to start with so little time left in the Army. As he stated, it doesn't take two months to clear, and should plans change it would be much easier to move forward with it than without it. Good luck!
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CPL, If I was in your boots, I would take every opportunity for free schools I could before I got out. BLC is not a hardship and future employers would like to see leadership training on your resume.
Just do it, and not just because your 1SG told you to go.
Your 1SG sees potential in you and possibly wants retain you.
And yes, they can make you, until 2359 to the day after you outprocess.
SPC William Weedman
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Take it. All I needed after I joined the NG 2 months ETS to get my E-5 and squad leader slot was what was called PLDC then. The unit jerked me around for 6 years, put in the squad leader and make up a new excuse for not sending me to school. When the CoC realized I was really going to ETS the NG they magically came up with a course...6 months after my ETS. No idea if any of the other soldiers stuck around to go, all “selected” were after our ETS dates.
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CPL Dale Ketron
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It can help you later down the road. But if you go with the attitude of not wanting to be there, I would say let someone else go.
Your 1SG is looking out for you whether you believe or not.
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CPL Dale Ketron
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I would follow the order and go to school. You're a Soldier and you have an obligation to hold up orders. It's not immoral or unethical...but to ease your question you can check with JAG. I'm just AG guy.
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LTC Peter Hartman
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CPL Jonny Brakes: I would go if I were you. I went in my first enlistment although it was at around my 3rd year. Consider the reserves or the Guard. Especially if your state waives public college tuition for Guardsman. I was from Louisiana and they did. Several other states do as well. And more states cut a nice percentage off. That means the tuition assistance that you already get as a Soldier goes into your pocket. And you may stay in the Guard or return to active duty. Basically you are keeping your options open.
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The answers is yes. Nothing in the order is unlawful only inconvenient for you but that's life alot with military life.
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