Posted on Mar 16, 2022
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I am in a national guard unit and also a MS03 cadet at my University ROTC battalion. our unit is deploying in 5-6 months. Can your unit commander stop you from contracting in the next one or two months.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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Can they? Yes. Will they? Who knows. Have you had a sit down with your Command Team to discuss this?
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Likewise, have you talked to the PMS or APMS about this? They can deploy you, but not sure they can prevent you from contracting with ROTC.
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If you are asking if they can stop you from signing an ROTC contract? No, they can not. However, you will need to complete an SMP agreement with your ROTC contract. If your unit won't accept you as an SMP cadet, then speak to your state guard's Officer Strength Manager, they will move you into a new unit to be an SMP cadet. Why are you not contracted already? As an MS03, you should be contracted already. Once contracted with ROTC, you become an SMP cadet and are non-deployable.
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I am not a citizen yet. Waiting on my naturalization.
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MAJ Roland McDonald
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Need more info are you SMP? Guard or reserves going to school? Need more info to help you, be detailed. Or are you active duty?
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MAJ Roland McDonald
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CPT Lawrence Cable he has not signed the contract yet in a month or two.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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MAJ Roland McDonald - Still, Officer Schools used to be a priority, the local commanders blessing didn't come up. When he contracts, he will still have to get the DD368, but I've never heard of a General turning down a conditional release for a Cadet.
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Only needs a DD368 if he wants to leave the ARNG while still a cadet, and does not want to SMP.
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Can your unit commander stop you from ROTC contracting due to coming deployment?
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I will first caution you on operational security or OPSEC. You have enough information here to give anyone an idea who is deploying and where you are going. Now from your question, I assume you have not signed an ROTC contract yet. Your NG unit commander has to approve your SMP contract so they can decide that you are mission critical for the deployment and not sign the SMP agreement. The State’s officer strength manager though could also have some say if they deem it more important in the long term to gain an officer. However, if you have an opportunity to deploy and know you want to be an officer, do the deployment. You earn education benefits you would not otherwise have.
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Hi, Thanks for notifying me about OPSEC. I took care of that by redacting key information.
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MSG Senior Military Science Instructor
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If he/she doesn't sign your paperwork then yes you will deploy first and when you come back you should be good to go. The only issue I could see with this is timing. If you waited to bring this up right before the deployment then they may see it as you trying to get out of it. Second thing, don't forget it's mission first. If your mission requires that he maintains a certain percentage to deploy then you'll just have to wait. Typically, this is not an overnight thing and your commander should have been tracking if you told them. I'm in ROTC currently and haven't seen a commander do this. Most issues are the result of lack of communication or misunderstanding.
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Hi,
My unit is aware of my possible contracting. It's just that I was waiting for my naturalization which is a pre requisite for contracting. Finally the balls are rolling and i will become a citizen in the next one and half month. that is why my contracting was so late.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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Timing and communication. The Hallmark of things working or breaking down. Suck a fickle double edge sword.
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MSG Senior Military Science Instructor
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Ahh..okay. Yeah that is a lengthy process. I've seen that take several months depending on the individual. On the bright side at least its only five months and not 12. Expect the worst ,but hope for the best and if you see trouble run the other way!
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