Posted on Sep 22, 2015
Christie tells National Guard leader to slim down; anybody else think this is hilarious?
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Hilarious, yes - but he's right, the Guardsman has a standard to abide by...whereas elected officials do not.
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CPO Randy Francis
The Governor's correct. And he's not the one that is required to comply with military standards - the General is. The Governor's a civilian and has no obligation whatsoever to comply with military standards.
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SGT John Rauch - While I do think it ironic and funny, the fact is that the military has height/weight standards that must be adhered to, while there is no such requirement to serve as governor, even if he happens to be commander-in-chief of the Guard.
If this general has been in violation for some time and has been "dodging physical fitness tests", as stated in the article , he should be removed from his position, not given 90 days to comply.
If this general has been in violation for some time and has been "dodging physical fitness tests", as stated in the article , he should be removed from his position, not given 90 days to comply.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
CPL Phillipe Farneti - LOL... :-)
I have steadfastly stated for years that I would much rather have a fat good soldier than a skinny crappy one. I think the Army has discharged a great many good soldiers because of the weight control regs. I always gave my soldiers great lee-way and the benefit of the doubt as far as weight control went. As long as they were genuinely trying to lose weight, I worked with them, even if it was not totally IAW policy.
I have steadfastly stated for years that I would much rather have a fat good soldier than a skinny crappy one. I think the Army has discharged a great many good soldiers because of the weight control regs. I always gave my soldiers great lee-way and the benefit of the doubt as far as weight control went. As long as they were genuinely trying to lose weight, I worked with them, even if it was not totally IAW policy.
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MSgt Danny Hope
I agree, everyone should have to maintain standards...unfortunately the military has always had multiple standards. It may just be me, but I remember a lot of personnel in the medical field that failed to meet standards, but it was always explained away as something ignored because of personnel shortages.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
MSgt Danny Hope - Yes ... It was more a result of their chain of command not enforcing standards. The medical folks hated it when I came to one of their facilities. Let's just say that I was not shy about calling out failure to meet standards and failure to enforce standards. I had more than one memorable event with the medical chain of command. Not an indictment on all, but that career field seemed more apt than others to ignore the regs about appearance standards.
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MSgt Danny Hope
COL Jean (John) F. B. - Thanks for confirming that it wasn't just my imagination. I do have to be fair however, when ever I needed to be treated, I could not complain about the quality of care (most times)
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I am surprised the General wasn't fired. What got Governor Christie fired up about it wasn't that the General didn't meet the Air Force standards, it was that he had received a reprimand for dodging the PT test and weigh in the past three years and neglected to tell the Governor about it. Christie gave him three months to meet the standard.
Pretty generous, in my mind. I think he should have been canned.
Pretty generous, in my mind. I think he should have been canned.
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Sounds reasonable to me. The Governor telling his guard commander to meet standards. Overweight and dodging PT tests. Who else will tell him. Christie is a civilian, he's allowed to be fat.
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MAJ (Join to see)
I think some of the Service Members responding just wish they could be fat
In all seriousness, you're right SFC Joseph Weber. However, I think the General should have been removed from his position for violating not only the standards, but covering it up and compromising his integrity.
In all seriousness, you're right SFC Joseph Weber. However, I think the General should have been removed from his position for violating not only the standards, but covering it up and compromising his integrity.
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PO3 (Join to see)
If I could give you more than one thumbs up, I would. I'm not exactly a fan of Gov. Christie, but I'm all about service members respecting their chain of command (and understanding how that chain works). I could understand many of the responses found in this topic coming from civilians who don't know any better, but these are service members and veterans.
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While the irony is humorous, Christie is under no obligation to meet physical fitness standards. I'm actually very proud of him for this. It's high time things like this aren't ignored among top leaders. It only sets bad example for junior troops. I HATE the question from juniors about how senior officer or enlisted could possible have passed the weigh in.
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LCDR (Join to see)
SGT John Rauch oh I completely agree. The voice that's saying it is a little hard to take serious, but it is a real issue :)
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I think he should slim down. The governor's weight is not at issue. Governors do not have physical fitness standards. Military personnel do. End of discussion!!!
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Typical, there are lot of fat ass officers who use their rank to get out of PT standards but are quick to burn enlisted for not meeting standards. Especially Majors and above. This nasty as General should be no exception. Either set the example or don't lead!
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MG Stephen Hogan
The officer Corps does need to accept the example, no doubt- and I have seen exactly what you have described in those that leave troops and go to the staff; normally at the 04 level and above. Because they aren't called on it then, it becomes a habit- which is really a the leadership sin of sins. Outside of command, does not mean outside of leadership.
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SFC A. M. Drake,
We must look at it like this; the POTUS has never served in the military, but he is the Commander-in-Chief. So, if he told either of us to stop doing something that he is guilty of him-self we'd still have to comply. Doesn't make it right, but we still must obey.
We must look at it like this; the POTUS has never served in the military, but he is the Commander-in-Chief. So, if he told either of us to stop doing something that he is guilty of him-self we'd still have to comply. Doesn't make it right, but we still must obey.
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SFC A.M. Drake
I'm not looking at it either way. The BG lied about taking a PT test and BF for the last three yes. That's the bigger sin
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LCDR (Join to see)
Very true, but in this case the Pot can be any color it wants to be whereas the Kettle is under a contractual obligation to be a sleek silver. ;)
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