Posted on Jul 21, 2014
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I am a non-combat vet retired in 2004. Never deployed in the first Gulf war, Iraq or Afganistan. My Commander and my Cheif chose to leave me home to care for my wife. Not my choice but I appreciate what they did for us. She was diagnosed with Multiple sclerosis in 2001 and breast cancer in 2003. All of my buddies have deployed and I miss that little connection they have when we all get together. So I wonder is there any animosity by combat vets toward non-combat vets. My buds say I'm one of them it doesn't matter. Don't get me wrong I am proud of my service and have a son serving now. Was just curious. Thank you for any feed back.
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I feel like you are a super lucky guy and thank you for your service, I don't that make you less deserving of the title, you're a veteran no matter what
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SSG Thomas Brousseau
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A Veteran is a Veteran. To be honest my service in Korea in the 1/506 Infantry was much more Physically challenging than it was to be a PSYOP Team Chief in Baghdad. All unselfish service for this great nation of ours is noble service.
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SGT BigredoneRichard Chiapperini
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As a young combat solider we called the REMF's... as a experienced vet, I appreciate all of our service members who support our mission as a whole. Because without food,supplies, and ammunition, there is no mission.
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A vet is a vet as many have said, so I won't talk about that. There is animosity towards non-combat vets but I think that's more in the actual force rather than when your out and about shooting the stuff with your friends. Case in point (for anyone that worked in the 'gon). At a point, people were being scrutinized in the Pentagon for not having a combat patch, people were hiding out there....this is completely different from your situation, so don't think I'm comparing them. Also, for promotions, deployment helps and I think anyone who denies that is kidding themselves.

In your current world, there shouldn't be any animosity, you choose to serve, not where and when you served. Got it, there's a connection you don't share with them, don't let it bother you. Look at your other friends, there will be connections that they or you share that other's won't, doesn't mean there is animosity. Unless you all lived in the same town, went to the same school and then college, dated the same women, went to the same places on vacation, there are going to be things that you missed out on. I missed outings/b-days/weddings when I was overseas that my other friends got to share with one another....I can't connect with them on those little things, doesn't mean there is animosity....get what I'm saying?
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Completely agree with the animosity towards those in service. Every time I go to the JFHQ and I see a bunch of colonels and majors with no combat patch I wonder where they have been for the last decade.
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Personally, I have not a single ill thought on those that haven't had the opportunity to deploy. My deployment happened simply because I transferred to a unit 6 months prior to the unit shipping out. Luck of the draw, you might say. Everyone has to serve a role somewhere. As long as people have that thought process, then there shouldn't be issues in between those that have and haven't deployed.
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CPT Jack Durish
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I found it interesting as I scanned the accumulated comments posted in response to this discussion that there was something missing, two somethings actually.

I often found resentment, understandably so, among those slogging through the mud and jungles of Vietnam towards those who served in the rear with the gear. Sure, all understood that it was some sort of a magnificent lottery those dictated where each soldier ended up. Unlike previous wars, there were no true safe havens. Every basecamp perimeter was a front line and I believe that's even truer today as terrorists avoid front line forces whenever possible and strike anywhere at anytime. Still, there was a level of discomfort to be suffered patrolling the rice paddies and mountains that those in the rear never had the opportunity to enjoy.

More importantly (and this is the second something) every soldier who found him or herself among civilians during the time of the Vietnam War was subject to the same hatred and abuse regardless of their duty or rank or MOS. We were all "baby killers" in those days. Many would ditch their uniforms in airport bathrooms, but there were other telltale signs - their farmer's tans, their haircuts, their bearing - that gave them away and made them targets.

We were all brothers and sisters in those times. Interestingly, all who serve today enjoy a different sort of treatment, again dispensed by civilians without regard to rank, MOS, or whether or not they even deployed.
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You don't get to choose your war. I hold no animosity towards vets that never had the opportunity to go overseas and fight for their country. Now with that being said I do have dissension with those that have been in for 14 years and have miraculously never had the opportunity to deploy. Now Im not saying that it is not possible to have your career path take you in a different direction however for those that dodge deployments they need to get out.

http://rhinoden.rangerup.com/light-on-the-right-ditch-deployment-dodgers/
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MSgt (Join to see), there is no such thing as veteran and non-combat veteran; there is veteran and combat veteran. Calling yourself a non-combat veteran may be true, but it implies that there is something "missing" from the time you served. I'm in the same boat as you...I'm proud of my brothers and sisters who are combat veterans, but the common denominator is that we are all veterans!

I asked a similar question several months back...the overwhelming consensus was that a veteran is a veteran. That being said, there are combat veterans, Iraq veterans, Afghanistan veterans, Vietnam veterans, etc...

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-veteran-status-be-reserved-for-those-who-have-deployed
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LTC Hillary Luton
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Simply serving one's country is honorable. Not everyone is given the opportunity to deploy, and that's ok. They still served. I have absolutely no ill feelings towards my brothers and sisters in uniform who have not deployed. They are still service members and they still served and I am still glad I had the opportunity to serve with them.
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SFC Brian Mattson
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Thank you
Now let's see although I never deployed something always took me out of the mix, I never backed out. I put my boots on the line for 22 years (11B). I have been to Kuwait and Iraq as a contractor to Serve those who Protect US. So with that said; I don't appreciate the question that was asked.
Oh yes by the way I still work for the Army Supporting those who Protect US.
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LTC Hillary Luton
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Not only thank you for your service, but thank you for continuing to support the troops.
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LTC Hillary Luton
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1SG(P) Ross Bagwell I would have to agree with that. Good point Top.
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SPC Brian Aranda
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My personal view from the Infantry barracks...I'm of two minds on this, I'm glad I never had to go to war. I'm not a coward, I would have gone if deployed, but war is that place where people get killed.

I also regret never going to war. I invested a good portion (at the time) of my life and time learning a role that I never got to play.

Makes sense to me, not sure if anyone else will see it that way.

All that being said, I served and I am a veteran, no matter what anyone thinks.
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MSG John Wirts
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Right on! I was ostracized, By Vietnam Combat Vets, for not having gone to Viet Nam. But not all of the Vietnam Vets were combat vets, there were some who worked in offices, some who were on ships or boats. My brother was a submariner his boat was in Vietnamese waters submerged, so he never saw combat. But he is a Vietnam Vet, and I am a Vietnam Era vet, of there are Cold War certificates and commermentive Cold War medals, and Cold War Vet Caps with the Cold War Ribbon embroidered on them. So if the combat and non-combat Vietnam or Gulf War vets get pissy,go with Cold War Vet and insist that the pissy theater vets leave our cold war alone!
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SFC Boots Attaway
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Right on MSG John Wirts , Besides the Cold War was not that cold on the Korean DMZ or in Berlin at Check Point Charlie. I am adding my Cold War Medal to my medal rack, after all we earned it and I will wear it to.
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