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For on the spot corrections the answer is simply NO. You correct the deficiency in the Soldier the proper way. Afterwards I would go talk to that Soldiers NCO and inform them of the deficiency and what you did to correct it.
However, if you have an issue with a soldier that does not an immediate corrective action but a counseling or a more in depth corrective action, then I would go and talk to that Soldiers NCO and inform them of the issue and what my intentions are in regards to correct the problem.
Second, if you correct another leader's Soldier, and that leader does not share your leadership philosophy, then you have wasted your time. That other NCO is not required to enforce whatever standard your think was violated. If the styles of leadership and the methods of corrective training do not match closely, all that has been accomplished is giving a Soldier a bad attitude.
As leaders, communication should be the priority, especially with our peers and trusted agents. Corrections can always be implemented at an appropriate time.
It is courtesy for an NCO to inform another NCO of ay corrective actions taken on the others soldiers. The NCOdoes need to be informed so that he or she is aware of the whereabouts of his subordinate is and what they are doing so as not to causeeven more problems for the troops. Corrective actions or training shouing the corrective ttraining should be given only by someone in the direct chain of command if the NCO giving the training is a junior NCO then he must notif the Senior NCO in the chain as to the training and why it was given. Where a it is a courtesy for the Senior NCO to let the junior NCO of the training so that the junior NCO dos not think that the soldier is not just ignoring his regular duties.
General Military Authority would allow an on the spot correction where the corrective training simply involves correcting the deficiency. PRT based corrective training should occur within established guidelines.
NCOIC for a task in which the junior Soldier had been assigned (Staff Duty, CQ, area clean up, range detail) would need to make sure deficiencies were corrected in order to properly conduct the assigned task. Also, that they were appropriate for the Soldier in question i.e. does not violate profile, place undue financial burden, is not demeaning or otherwise constitute "hazing".
Common courtesy would/should involve a discussion with the Soldier's first line supervisor to insure that it is proper. If this was the 3rd time the Soldier was late for Staff duty during this quarter, it constitutes a pattern of misconduct. The first line supervisor probably needs a second or third counseling statement to recommend the Soldier for an Article 15, however, the corrective training now makes that counseling statement null and void for that purpose and the leader now has to wait for the next time he screws up. Or, there are extenuating circumstances to the situation and the Soldier was late because of late release or coming off of another tasking.
You, as an NCO, are not as intimately knowledgeable regarding a Soldier and their peculiarities as their first line supervisor. For corrective training to be effective, you need to know what does and does not work on a given Soldier. If you want his first line supervisor to have your back, you better have his back. Talk with him first.
CW2 I see where you would want to make sure your T's are crossed and I's are dotted when it comes to this matter. I've seen where the squad leader is just as irresponsible as the Soldier is and when you approach the squad leader they are aware of this Soldiers conduct and have yet to do anything about it.
A different ex. I see a Soldier smoking in the parking lot with friends and not around the designated smoking area. I come over to address the smoking area issue and to my surprise the Soldier puts out the cigarette and flicks the butt on the ground. I tell the Soldier to pick up the butt and pick up all the other cigarette butts in the area.
Obviously the Soldier knew he was wrong b/c he saw me coming and put his cigarette out but in a panic flicks the butt on the ground. The Soldier says no one has ever corrected him before. I don't know this Soldier or his leader so do I track his leadership down an explain or do I continue on my way?
SFC Butler, that in essence, is one of the things I think is wrong with our system now. It used to be in basic training, that when one DS hemmed you up...they all did. That was the "Village" way. Nowadays, that "it takes a Village" power has been taken away. We're not supporting one another as we should. Who's to say that other NCO would've applied any correction training or actions whatsoever? How is it at that level other NCOs need permission to correct "a US Army Soldier"?? So next time, another CSM/SGM/SFC/1SG saids anything to me, correctively, should that be my course of action, to tell "my" CSM/SGM/SFC/1SG?? (wonder how that will turn out)
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