Posted on May 29, 2015
Controversial 'Draw Mohammed' rally in front of Arizona Mosque. Do you concur?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDc_6nioI7o
A rally is planned for this Friday at the Arizona Mosque that seemingly mocks the prophet Mohammed. To make the matters worse, many of the participants are going to be armed.
This movement is a blatant illustration of the defense of 1st Amendment right, and should this right be violated, armed confrontations in defense of 2nd Amendment are to be anticipated.
One of its organizers is a former Marine Jon Ritzheimer who got slammed by Anderson Cooper on CNN. He was unable to stay consistent with his responses and in logical defense for the rally, all while putting his family in jeopardy (saying that he's in the process of relocating due to many threats from Muslims and non-Muslims alike).
What about you, do you agree with hosting such rally? Would you attend if you had an opportunity? Why or why not?
My personal take on this matter. This obviously seems to be a religion-sparked rally, therefore I'd go with my 'religion' of Christianity and why I oppose of this rally. I do NOT oppose of it for the fear of having my family persecuted, but of what the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 8.
The chapter outlines practices that would cause a non-believer (or a new-believer in Christ) to stumble. Such habits (whether eating certain foods or conducting other seemingly harmless practices) should not be exercised around such individuals so as not to spite them (causing ungodly struggles).
So logically being at the Mosque and mocking Muhammad with the anticipation of armed resistance would probably not bring much credit to Christianity or American lifestyle, wouldn't you agree? Your turn.
http://www.12news.com/story/news/local/valley/2015/05/27/draw-muhammad-contest-phoenix-anti-islam/28029579/
A rally is planned for this Friday at the Arizona Mosque that seemingly mocks the prophet Mohammed. To make the matters worse, many of the participants are going to be armed.
This movement is a blatant illustration of the defense of 1st Amendment right, and should this right be violated, armed confrontations in defense of 2nd Amendment are to be anticipated.
One of its organizers is a former Marine Jon Ritzheimer who got slammed by Anderson Cooper on CNN. He was unable to stay consistent with his responses and in logical defense for the rally, all while putting his family in jeopardy (saying that he's in the process of relocating due to many threats from Muslims and non-Muslims alike).
What about you, do you agree with hosting such rally? Would you attend if you had an opportunity? Why or why not?
My personal take on this matter. This obviously seems to be a religion-sparked rally, therefore I'd go with my 'religion' of Christianity and why I oppose of this rally. I do NOT oppose of it for the fear of having my family persecuted, but of what the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 8.
The chapter outlines practices that would cause a non-believer (or a new-believer in Christ) to stumble. Such habits (whether eating certain foods or conducting other seemingly harmless practices) should not be exercised around such individuals so as not to spite them (causing ungodly struggles).
So logically being at the Mosque and mocking Muhammad with the anticipation of armed resistance would probably not bring much credit to Christianity or American lifestyle, wouldn't you agree? Your turn.
http://www.12news.com/story/news/local/valley/2015/05/27/draw-muhammad-contest-phoenix-anti-islam/28029579/
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Just an event begging for trouble (from religious fanatics or the police, or both) with no winners
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SGT Anthony Rossi
Totaly agree! This is the kind of junk that cause people that don't practice a faith to just shake there heads! I believe I. Convictions but what do you hope to accomplish with this?
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
Personally, I think that they are just looking to stir up some trouble, incite a little violence, and get a lot of attention.
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MSgt James Mullis
I can think of several, albeit mostly foolish, reasons. Self promotion, a misguided attempt to draw out radicalized Muslim's in a time and place of their choosing, demonstrate they have as much of a right to publicly show their ignorance as the flag burners, remind people that in America we have freedom of speech - not freedom from speech, and that we are a country ruled by constitutional laws not by religious laws (i.e. Sharia law). What I can't come up with are any reasons why they should be prevented from doing it.
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Freedom of speech doesn't mean it is smart to do, especially in my neighborhood.
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PO1 (Join to see)
Correct. Its original intention was to curb the tyrannical governmental involvement in private citizen's life. What this event does is tarnishes the American citizen's good name in the name of Constitution, so sad. Not much difference there from Westboro Baptist Church fanatics
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
One can exercise his/her freedoms with a dose of common sense. After all, there is a time and a place for everything.
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A1C Clay Slater
I think that just becuase we can, doesn't mean we should. Freedom of speech often translates to, for many people and groups, "Let's bash on this other groups' beliefs because they conflict with ours."
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"the rally also encourages participants to utilize their second amendment right at this event just in case our first amendment right comes under the much anticipated attack."
Real MENSA members at work here! They're also goating a gun battle, really nice!!
Real MENSA members at work here! They're also goating a gun battle, really nice!!
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I wouldn't go to a rally such as this not because I don't support their right to have it, I am just not a follower of these type of group activities.
Muhammad is the elephant in the room when it comes to "untouchable" images. Muslims take great offense at anything that might show him in a negative light. I understand the position. If you want to live in a free country then you have to be willing to allow your ox to be gored. God knows Christians have had to put up with it for decades from the left and other organizations that have gone after the church.
Muslims want the protections of the Constitution to advance their causes/religion. They want to be able to speak freely, live freely etc so they need to be able to accept that others can speak as well. They have to be able to take the good with the bad, just like the rest of us. We should not be willing to accept a "seperate but equal" position on this.
Why will they be armed? Well, the last time they had one of these in Texas a couple of islamists showed up ready to kill. If I was at this event, I would be armed too. Not for offensive purposes but defensive.
Muhammad is the elephant in the room when it comes to "untouchable" images. Muslims take great offense at anything that might show him in a negative light. I understand the position. If you want to live in a free country then you have to be willing to allow your ox to be gored. God knows Christians have had to put up with it for decades from the left and other organizations that have gone after the church.
Muslims want the protections of the Constitution to advance their causes/religion. They want to be able to speak freely, live freely etc so they need to be able to accept that others can speak as well. They have to be able to take the good with the bad, just like the rest of us. We should not be willing to accept a "seperate but equal" position on this.
Why will they be armed? Well, the last time they had one of these in Texas a couple of islamists showed up ready to kill. If I was at this event, I would be armed too. Not for offensive purposes but defensive.
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What do they hope to gain? In terms of freedom of speech, yeah they have the right. But to insight Muslims and invite hate and bigotry?
There are better ways.
There are better ways.
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I don't see how it will bring about anything positive. It seems to me that it's a waste of time. I'd rather go out in my neighborhood and invite somone to church.
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I'm all for freedom of speech - but I still think it's stupid. Also, I'd be curious what people would think if it was a "Draw Jesus" contest in front of a church....
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SGT Anthony Rossi
Agree. I like your comparison to the concept of drawing Jesus. What's the point! Jesus would want you to do it!
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I agree with everyone. This rally is looking for a fight. The 1st amendment protects freedom of speech in a non violent manner. That's why the KKK and other discrimination groups getaway with it. Peaceful demonstration is the right. Showing up armed is a statement daring an extremist to show up for a stare down contest.
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I'm not going to hide behind a bile verse, which can always be interpreted to suit a certain point of view.
I think that the simple act of drawing a religious character should and will be protected by the 1st amendment. Why not? If someone had a "Draw Jesus" rally outside a Christian church do you think it would be wrong? Why or why not? So for fear of offending someone we should hide instead of having this rally? I don't think so. I would defend the persons right to freely draw Mickey Mouse if that was the case. That is what we signed up to defend. you can't pick and choose WHICH part of a right you defend.
Is it stupid? Sure. Don't like it? don't go...
My two cents.
I think that the simple act of drawing a religious character should and will be protected by the 1st amendment. Why not? If someone had a "Draw Jesus" rally outside a Christian church do you think it would be wrong? Why or why not? So for fear of offending someone we should hide instead of having this rally? I don't think so. I would defend the persons right to freely draw Mickey Mouse if that was the case. That is what we signed up to defend. you can't pick and choose WHICH part of a right you defend.
Is it stupid? Sure. Don't like it? don't go...
My two cents.
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SSG Donald Mceuen
It an't right but it is there right as long as no harm comes to those that act right.
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PO1 (Join to see)
We shouldn't 'hide' per se, but out of common courtesy be mindful of what offends someone, religiously or personally. Just like popping gum or finger joints, if you had an acquaintance of whom you had a good idea that such sounds are offensive to them, wouldn't you try to be mindful in front of them? Certainly you wouldn't intentionally try to spite them I'd hope. This was just that, intentional spiting act. Thank you for your view!
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This is simply asking for trouble disguised as freedom of speech. It's a lose-lose situation. Other than puffing their chests at their right to do so, what are the organizers hoping to gain?
And we wonder why no one can just get along?
And we wonder why no one can just get along?
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