Posted on Feb 19, 2019
Jay Aaron
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Could I do ROTC after being disqualified medically for OCS? So long story short, I’m prior enlisted and was diagnosed from the VA(during my RE1 delectation) with an adjustment disorder. I didn’t believe I actually struggled with the adjustment disorder once I was diagnosed, so I went through the very long process of being undiagnosed. After I graduated from undergrad I chose to pursue OCS and thought I would make it through no questions asked. However, I was disqualified and needed a waiver to get in. I just found out my waiver was disapproved. I have also been accepted into grad school and already was planning on attending grad school and trying to do ROTC if I could. I don’t agree with my waiver disaproval, and I know it doesn’t matter what I think, but I don’t think I should be disqualified based on the DODI anyways.

Anyways, I understand that the ROTC medical review process is different. Do I have a chance? I’m going to give it a go anyways, but would love some more advice.
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COL Dana Hampton
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You would most likely need the same type of waiver to contract for MSIII and MSIV while pursuing a graduate degree. For a definiative answer it’s always best to seek advice from your school’s Sr ROTC cadre. They will have access to the most current policy and regulations.
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SFC Marc W.
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The medical regulation regarding commissioning is the same regardless of source (ie OCS, West Point, ROTC. @COL Dana Hampton is correct on guidance.
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Jay Aaron
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Could I potentially be approved for a medical waiver for ROTC even though I wasn’t for OCS?SFC Marc W.
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SFC Marc W.
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I don't know enough about how they route waivers or who the final authority is for your particular conditions to give you a clear idea.
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COL Jon Thompson
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The Army uses the same standards of medical fitness for entrance. So I doubt that you would make it. However, the waiver review and approval process are probably different. For ROTC, it goes to Cadet Command and the Cadet Command surgeon makes a recommendation to the commander. Some waivers have to go DA Surgeon General. But it is up to a medical professional to make a recommendation and usually the commander will go with that. Also, I am not sure how the medical reporting systems talk with each other. The only thing I know for sure is nothing will happen if you don't try. I would go talk to the ROTC program and make your case. If you are a quality scholar/athlete/leader, they may take a chance. Good luck.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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It’s Chapter 2 of AR40-501, not Chapter 3 Retention Standards
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Jay Aaron
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That specifically states history or current adjustment disorder within 3 months is disqualifying. I am may have a “history” according to the Army, but not within 3 months. So that’s why I’m confused why I’m DQ’d anyways. LTC Jason Mackay
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Jay Aaron only the precommissioning physical doctor can answer that.
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I'm not sure how the ROTC medical process is any different. It doesn't make sense how a medical condition could keep you from commissioning through OCS but not keep you from commissioning through ROTC. You'd be ending up in the exact same place with the exact same medical condition. I'm not saying you're wrong, it just doesn't seem logical. Then again, the military isn't always the most logical place. Good luck to you.
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Could I do ROTC after being disqualified medically for OCS?
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Read through all I'd sent you thus far, and, as I'd said, elaborate on your interests and/or background, so far as you can, if I can suggest anything more, or you might care to chat, just ask, OK?
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hall_Center_for_Maritime_Training_and_Education

This is a little-known union based program, run by the Seafarers Intl Union (SIU), it's run along quasi-military lines, that can ultimately lead to Merchant Marine licensure by USCG, if taken far enough, for 3rd mate and/or 3rd engineer, my Dad had wanted me to apply to it when I'd been a kid, it'd been called the Harry Lundeberg school back then, it was since renamed, obviously, understand, it's not a military school, per se, it's a union-based training program, however, I mention it purely as a possibility, in case it might perhaps interest you at all....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=rotc%20graduate%20school&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Look at these on ROTC used for grad school, as I'd said, I'm fairly certain the other svc scholarship programs I mentioned all would allow it, as well, though you'd obv need to ask, of course....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://www.usphs.gov/student/srcostep.aspx

Here's the Sr COSTEP page....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://www.usphs.gov/student/jrcostep.aspx

Here's the Jr COSTEP page....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://www.usphs.gov/student/

This is on the USPHS programs, they do also use engineers, comp sci (CS), and IT, not solely clinical fields, however, that obv depends on how short they are at any given time, of course...look specifically at the Jr and Sr COSTEP, it, as well as ROTCs, and also USMC PLC, as well as I think the USCG scholarship programs, can also be used for grad school, not solely undergrad, OK? Which you'd need to do anyway, I can assure you that, if you did go warrant or commissioned, you'd most definitely be expected to get, minimum, a masters, even if you had to do it part-time, as well as all your prof mil educ (PME) nonresident coursework, so trust me, this side could be well worth your time to look at, USPHS also has a much higher age limit, typ 44, I think, their clinical standards might possibly differ, I'm not entirely certain, plus, esp if you'd care to go for a psych-related clinical field, they have an agreement with the other major Federal svcs, Army, Navy, and USAF, to let USPHS psych-related clinicians be assigned to them for 3 yr tours, there's a website about that aspect, I'll try do send it, as well, OK?
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https://www.goarmy.com/army-cyber/cyber-direct-commissioning-program.html

This is the Army version for cyber, this is likely one of those programs that'd entail going to an Army direct commission indoc OIS program, as I'd mentioned....
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