Posted on Nov 2, 2014
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So I was perusing Army Times and saw this little Gem:

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20110309/NEWS/103090328/Ex-Walter-Reed-CSM-sentenced-to-6-months

From the article:

Some of the offenses admitted by Crump include wearing six awards and decorations from March to December of 2009, including the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal with Arrowhead device, which indicates — contrary to military records — that he made a combat jump into Grenada. He admitted he wore a U.S. Navy Achievement Medal without authority since 2006 and, on three occasions, two or three unauthorized overseas service bars.


Do you think that the CSM was fined too harshly, just right, or not enough?


I will reserve my comments for now.
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SPC Richard White
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The CSM took an Oath to be an NCO he broke that oath and trust. 6 months seems awfully light considering the offense
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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SPC Richard White - bear in mind, however, the CSM will be serving the remainder of his military career as a SSG. THAT stain will last far longer and will have a more lasting impact than six months in the slammer.
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PV2 Abbott Shaull
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Still not enough of demotion as far as I am concern. What a joke, he still will be allowed to get a decent retirement while doing things that we have all fought hard with others who have never served who attempted to steal valor all the time. What is worse, he was in a position where he should of known much better, and to add insult he was in NCO not an Officer where one could use that as an excuse.
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1SG Michael Blount
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SFC William Laws - Depends on what the sentence said. Without reading the decision, I'm willing to bet the sentence adjusted his retirement pay to that of an SSG as well.
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SGT Criss M.
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i think that if was an officer, he would be given a letter of reprimand and allowed to retire.
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CSM Raymond O'Brien
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General Petraeus?! LTC Green!!!!?
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SFC Training Nco
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Holy crap, I hope the Guard doesn't get audited. Our "military records" have been messed up for years!
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SFC Training Nco
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It was sarcasm, the editor of the article just seems to be trying to add additional damage, any Soldier adding fradulent ribbons for recognition is entitled to time behind bars, if only they administered this very same passion to those Stolen Valor pukes that get caught throughout the nation. smh.
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SSG(P) Instructor
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As I read this, my hair stands up on the back of my neck. If this were a Sgt or SSgt, I feel they would of been much harder on him or her.

So, you cry to a judge and he gives you leniency? I guess, if that works.

Demotion and OTH discharge. How did he get to stay in the military? I hope they will reconsider. What would they do if this was a high ranking officer? Are they held to higher standards? Absolutely! The ribbons and awards he chose to lie about are nothing to be super proud over, so he must of done it for promotion points is the only thing I can think of. I will be watching this one closely.

He brings great discredit to himself, his unit, and the US ARMY. How is that for an award?
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PO1 Rick Serviss
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He doesn't need prison. He needs a swift kick in the butt.
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SGT John Little
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I retired as a Sgt. from active duty and dam proud of it too,,, I could have faked my way but I chose service to country not service to self. As a young soldier I chose deployments over school missed promotion opportunities. But NO REGRETS I accepted my fate and dealt with my choices I had leaders who saw that I had potential and mentored me, and guided me and this allowed me to stay in the Army for a little over 20 years, and would faithfully come back to active duty as a SGT. not SSG, SGT Because when I go to sleep at night, at least I served my country with honor and never lied about anything. especially telling lies about earning awards or badges I did not deserve,
as we used to say in the 80's PX soldier, Maj P, I agree, strip rank demote to private and send him packing. PS. and to insult you CO, MOH Recipient Gordon, with your deceit is despicable
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SSG Jim Foreman
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This guy was a CSM, he knew what he was doing. I don't know if he felt inferior to the combat troops he was around or he just needed to be a super trooper. Whatever the reason he's a impostor. As far as his family goes, he never worried about them when he pinned on those ribbons.
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CPT Retired
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I don't understand why someone in his position would do this?
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SGT Steve Vincent
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I believe that his punishment should have been a demotion in rank to PVT, 6 months confinement, and a dishonorable discharge. I don't care how many years you served; if you lied your ass off and broke military law to further your career, you should have everything stripped from you. To have this sorry excuse for a senior enlisted man be able to get off without a dishonorable, it boggles the mind. Not only did he use deception to improve his position/standing, he took a dump and then wiped his rear with the NCO Creed. If I had been that judge, when he trotted his family in and then took the stand to argue for leniency, because of the damage his actions would case to them, I would have looked right at his family members and told them he did all of that, and he is the sole person responsible for the repercussions. Then I would have stripped him of his rank and had him hauled away in handcuffs. This is what happens when you lower standards of ethics, morality, and intelligence, in the military. What a "leader"...
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SGT Steve Vincent
SGT Steve Vincent
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Jail time wouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker for me, in this circumstance. I would be willing to lower that to 60 days of extra duty, out there pulling weeds and such. It wouldn't be to humiliate him per se, but to serve as a visual reminder to all of the lower enlisted, as well as the NCOs who were under his charge, that actions do have consequences, and rank doesn't mean anything if you violate the oaths you swore to uphold. How many Soldiers under his scope did he have out there in suicide vests, picking up trash, painting rocks, etc? You know as well as I do that in the military, whether it is formal or not, rank hath its' privileges, like company commanders and 1st Sergeants getting their own parking spots and such, but we should all have equal accountability under the UCMJ. Honestly, for things like this, and many more, the higher your rank, the stiffer your punishment should be. Everyone expects Privates to screw the pooch. It is what happens when you take some fresh-faced kid and put him into a mans' world; there is a learning curve. Not with substance abuse and the like, but with smaller things like overspending, being tardy, etc. But you very rarely see Privates trying to walk around with fake service stripes, medals, and the like. They KNOW it is wrong. They KNOW their chain of command, from their TL to their BN CO should know what they are authorized, and they will get hammered if they try to pull some PX Ranger s**t. This man was a Command Sergeant Major. Knowing better was his JOB. I mean, it is a running joke in the Army that CSMs are straight Nazis about uniform violations, people walking on their grass, etc. This has its' place in military tradition, and lends itself to having a disciplined force, but when they are the ones faking it, it sets a precedent. This is why I believe he should have gotten hammered during these proceedings. You have to be extreme in a case like this, otherwise you begin to lose even more control of your Soldiers.
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