Posted on Sep 27, 2014
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Apft badge
Why has the Army APFT excellence Badge just gone down the drain for the most part?

Do you wear it?

Do you encourage your soldiers to wear it?

Why or why not?
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Personally I could care less what anyone outside of my company thinks of the physical fitness badge. I just had another Soldier in my company earn it and he will have it awarded to him out here in Africa. He also earned it at a previous unit and was not awarded it nor did he want to wear it due to the "stigma". He will wear it on his PT uniform because he earned it. And you know who is going to pay to get it sewn on his PT uniforms? Me! I have done it for other Soldiers that have earned it and will continue to do it until I retire. To me that is taking care of Soldiers and motivating others to achieve it. Just my 2 cents.

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Update! Retired! No more sew on feebies...lol
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Once I get another PSG position which is permanent I strongly pondering the idea of having everyone who has it wear it and do platoon ceremony for them to come in front of our platoon and receive it. In hopes this will make individuals start looking around the formation and not want to be the only person in formation to not have one on. kind of forcing my guys into peer pressure from one another. Thoughts?
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COL Charles Williams
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I have rarely seen this patch worn in the recent years. At one point the standard was 290, then it dropped to 270. When I was in command, I made a big deal of it. I never had an APFT score under 290, and I never wore this patch.
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Depreciation of the APFT Badge??
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It has been a while since I was authorized the PT patch but I have never worn it.
I never wanted to sew it on every PT shirt, if you don't earn it next PT test you have to take it off.

I think it would be cool to have a unit have qualified soldiers put it on for unit runs but other than that it's kinda overkill.
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Roger that Sir, im in the same boat have never worn it simply due to the fact I don't want to be looked at like the "tool" you know?

I also concur with the only on esprit de corps runs like every Friday? one shirt with it and that's it.
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LTC Kevin B.
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I earned it, but never wore it. For some reason, it just never felt like a real award.
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Yes sir, i always felt like it would make me feel like look at me
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Honestly I have never had it sewn on my uniform. I have maintained it for almost two decades now.

I remember when you had to score a 290 or above to wear it and I still stand by that standard for myself.

I do not necessarily agree that a person should get it if they score a 90% in each event with a potential to score only 270 points. I feel that has degraded the purpose of the badge.

Regardless of my personal view I would surely encourage my Soldiers to wear it.

I believe that it should be recognized in front of formation and awarded properly.
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I can't really speak for the whole army, but in my unit and the 82nd in general, people are going to look at you funny if you think getting a 270+ with at least 90/90/90 in each event is worthy of special recognition, since by my estimation about 70% of the division scores that high and probably another 20% is pretty close. Basically, it's not hard to score a 90/90/90, and it's strange to me that the army gives a badge that says "excellence" on it for such a simple feat. I think awarding the badge for scoring 300 on each PT test for 2 consecutive years would be more appropriate.
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My wife is a 42A and works at HHBN in 82nd and 70%? No that is false information you are putting out.
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I also worked at HHBN in the 82nd, and for the division as a whole, I stand by my assessment. HHBN has lower scores than the average 82nd BN, and it was still over 50% 270+ by my estimate. When I briefly worked as a company PAX clerk in HHBN, a captain arrived from a leg unit and inquired about rewards for PT performance (e.g. privelege of doing PT on your own in exchange for scoring 90/90/90, as many units allow). I relayed the query to my XO; he laughed and told me to tell the captain that 90/90/90 is meeting the standard here, not exceeding it.
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Question: APFT Badge Award Eligibility
The badge is awarded to soldiers who obtain a minimum total score of 270, with a minimum score of 90 on each event, of the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT), and meet the weight control requirements in AR 600-9. Soldiers are required to meet the above criteria on each recorded test to continue to wear the badge.

What constitutes a "recorded test?"
Does this apply to diagnostic APFT? or strictly FOR RECORD.

Example:
Soldier takes a record, earns APFT badge.
Soldier takes a diagnostic a few months later, just shy of maintaining 70 on each event.
Are they still authorized to wear badge?
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Zombie Post!

This is an interesting topic because you'll see people earn the GAFPB and wear it proudly. Aside from the great points about the additional cost of sewing it one multiple shirts, there is a deeper stigma that sewing costs don't address. Soldiers have this thing with devaluing awards so that they produce the opposite effect of what they were intended for those who've earned them.
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SSG Lisa Wright
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I would definitely wear it if I could possibly earn it; however, my permanent profile makes that forever impossible even if I were to max my events. Alternate aerobic events are graded GO or NO-GO; there are no points period, much less additional points for excellence in scoring better than the minimum standard.
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