Posted on Jul 2, 2019
Details below: following a negative interaction with two NCOs, should I drop it or pursue it further?
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So today we we're loading up a bus with people. Some of us were early. A sergeant said that we'll need to double up because it's going to be full (it was no where near). I told him I'll move when I need to. I wasn't trying to be insubordinate or disrespectful but I guess he took it that way. He said "no you move now. Who the f**k do you think you are?" So I moved. Then his SSG busy told me he needed my seat (all to himself) so I moved again. And all they did was talk trash on me for the day. So my question is am I wrong, or was he? If he was do I take it up with someone higher up the chain of command? Or do I ignore it? I have been told way worse things from people better than him. He's never liked me. and lots of people think he's a bit of a jerk To put it tactfully.
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Posted 6 y ago
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You were both wrong but your initial response to him, if done to me, would have had you jacked up heavily. I would have broken you or died trying. You don't talk that way to a senior NCO. You cannot expect respect if you don't give it. The last time someone questioned me rudely, he paid dearly. Just sayin.
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If a SPC told me "I'll move when I need to," he'd be lucky to have a seat on the bus. An NCO gives a lawful order, you follow it. Period. You were wrong. Him not liking you may stem from these sort of responses. That being said, the SGT and the SSG should not have been running their mouths, either.
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This doesn’t have to even be debated. I’m going to answer your question right now. In the future if an NCO ever gives a directive about “doubling up” on the bus you know what you say?
“ROGER!” Lol
If 15 minutes later the bus isn’t full then spread out.
“ROGER!” Lol
If 15 minutes later the bus isn’t full then spread out.
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I've found that it's most wise to pick your battles in the military. Unfortunately, when someone above you asks you to do something, it's generally wise to comply, even if it doesn't make sense to you. Unless it's an "unlawful order", it's unlikely to go very far. That said, what can (and probably WILL) go far, is the miserable existence said higher up will surely cause for you. Unless it's serious, always try paddling upstream!
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Frankly, it sounds like you’re a bit of a jerk. When I was a PFC, if a staff sergeant told me to move, I moved. Giving attitude is typically a losing proposition.
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In certain aspects, rank does have its privileges. If it was between the SSG doubling up and you doubling up, then I would've done the exact same thing with the exception of talking crap about you. However, are you saying you've never talked crap about someone? Or do you just do it when they're not listening or around? You instigated the situation by saying you'll move when you need to.
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Two axioms I try to live by:
Fight the battles you can win.
Fight the battles worth fighting.
Dude - I think you’re 0-for2 here. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on. I’ve learned I always prefer a bruised ego over flesh being forcibly ripped from my 4th Point of Contact.
Fight the battles you can win.
Fight the battles worth fighting.
Dude - I think you’re 0-for2 here. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on. I’ve learned I always prefer a bruised ego over flesh being forcibly ripped from my 4th Point of Contact.
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