Did Gun Control Cause The Holocaust???

If Dr. Carson is the scholar you believe him to be, he would have cited researchable examples. Even when the Nockzees came to power they were incapable of seizing the firearms of people they didn’t want to have them. At the height of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising in Poland, Jews were still able to obtain firearms from non Jews. More importantly, during the last few weeks of the Nockzees regime, they gave weapons to anyone who could stand up.

MAJ Damajah Arnold - You can't come up with an example of a government compelling citizens to turn in lawfully attained firearms?
New Zealand, just last year.
Try harder.

SGT Matt Yager Armed people will not freely load themselves on boxcars to concentration camps for slaughter.

MAJ Damajah Arnold what events you referring to? There are laws against harming others and criminals don’t follow them. 4700 people a day have lost their lives over the last 100 years at the hand of their own governments. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Define socialism...

None of this is factual, but I understand why you would want to believe it. Here’s a question to ponder. Should US forces in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan seize the firearms of the local citizenry?

MAJ Damajah Arnold - You really can't be that brainwashed, can you? My water comes from a company. My sanitation is a septic tank that I paid for. Public schools are the bain of this nation as they no longer educate, but rather indoctinate. And as for firefighters, we have a volunteer department. What do I need socilaism for unless I and my community are just too stupid to do it ourselves? Enjoy the kool-ade.

I understand why some of the most ignorant people in this country, insist on clinging to bad narratives and bad definitions. It’s frightening to learn everything you’ve been told by Faux News is a lie by design. The water you are supplied for drinking, if it is not monitored or tested, can kill you. I doubt if you know how to do that, but there are “socialist” public health organizations who monitor public water sources, so that farmers, ranchers, and manufacturers don’t poison the water with the effluent from their operations. We have public schools, because someone smarter than you, thought that providing everyone with a free and appropriate education was important to maintain a robust economy and a viable democracy. Rather than drone on, I’ll leave you with these thoughts and I hope they don’t hurt your feelings. In your screed, you used or implied the I and me a lot. I’m alarmed that this growing selfishness in the light of the social and political disruption in this country, and the “mountain man mentality,” is why the country is in deep trouble right now. You didn’t build your septic tank, you don’t teach your children Algebra, and you didn’t pay for your community’s fire truck...you only believe you do. I suggest the next time you feel a need to educate other people about “socialism,” you take the time and trouble to look up the definition of the term, it’s roots and application, and why we have things like social security, income taxes, public education, public health, and all the other things you seem to be raising against.

You're absolutely right, Goodpasture. As a Jew, an American and Israeli citizen and American and Israeli veteran, I want you to know that I agree with both of your points. There were 6 million Jews mrdered by the Nazi's and another 14 non-Jews. Very few citizens of any European countries had arms. That's why 20 million citizens of the countries that the Nazi's invaded were relatively easy to round up and murder in the death camps and plces like Babi Yar.

You're right and in defending the Warsaw Ghetto, decimated a regiment of the Waffen SS.

I also want to point out that the vast majority of citizens of pre-WWII were weaponless. And had been no clue how poorly trained and equipped their armed forces were. Germany was a razor sharp cutlass going up against a rusty butter knife.

MAJ Damajah Arnold - I thought majors were supposed to be educated. Poor tactics and strategy were the main reason for the Native Americans' defeat, as well as being severely outnumbered. Dang. Read some books. Thank God you were never in my Chain of Command.

No...I can’t imagine any person like you being subordinate to me for very long, because my standards were pretty high. As for my education, I would stack it against yours anytime, but that’s beside the point. Hollywood and John Wayne, obviously your teachers in American History, took great pain in excluding the key reasons for the genocide of indigenous peoples in the “new world.” I would cite “Guns, Germs, and Steel,” by Jared Diamond, or the eye witness accounts of warriors at the Battle of the Little Big Horn. I would even cite the story about Geronimo’s battle with the US Army, or even the Seminole Wars, the longest wars in American history. I don’t want to make this a contest...but I would also compare my library of well read and well referenced books to yours, including an article or two of mine published in “Infantry Magazine.” Bottom line? Native Americans fought wars against one another for hundreds of years before the arrival of Europeans, with great success, and with no formalized military training, a paucity of moderns weapons, and a modicum of strategy. Even a cursory study of how Europeans turned indigenous people against each other, armed one side against the others, smallpox and influenza, and a combination of effects and circumstances led to their submission, not strategy or tactics.

It's Obama's fault -

LOL...

Sgt Tom Cunnally - Here's an article regarding the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. Shows that some did fight back, and it resulted in an "Accelerated schedule." We have to remember this was a State Sanctioned event so the parallels aren't there.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/did-gun-control-prevent-jews-from-stopping-the-holocaust_n_2635989.html

I would point out that during the Warsaw uprising, the Soviets sat and watched while the Germans ruthlessly crushed the opposition. Although pragmatic on the part of the Soviets, watching their enemies fight their political adversaries, it exposed the Soviets as every bit as ruthless as the Nazis.
The Soviets went on to "disappear" hundreds of thousands (conservatively) of intellectuals, political leaders, and resistance fighters - gone forever to Siberia or simply shot in order to install Communist governments and consolidate their hold on power. They too were all about disarming the population as this was going on.

You make a good point I’d like to supplement. The Waffen SS and the Wehrmacht, are trained, resourced, and organized to kill people and break things. Opposing them were a group of half-starved, poorly led, disorganized, desperate people, many with nothing in common, except occupying a built up area, where fighting even with spears and rocks gave them an advantage. With the Red Army across the River only a few miles away, their only viable strategy was to hold out for help that never came. My point? An inferior but organized determined opponent occupying favorable terrain can delay, disrupt, or even defeat a vastly superior force. Bubba and Earl sitting in their homemade bunkers with their deer rifles and defective AK-47’s and defective Chinese ammunition, are not going to save the American democracy.

That’s a huge leaping assumption. The TACTICAL decision to allow the Germans to invest significant resources in reducing a city that had no strategic value to them, was a good call. As for the Polish collaborators whom the Russians had no use for, and could never trust, well, history is written by the winners. The Ruskies are bad people. I get that, but the fact is that Stalin and Hitler were once technically allies, but always plotting against each other, and Poland didn’t even exist before The Great War.

I tend to think of guns as seatbelts, yes they cause some injury and discomfort but in those moments of violent clash they may be all that is between you and the powers of inertia.

Sgt Tom Cunnally You might like to read this.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/365103/how-nazis-used-gun-control-stephen-p-halbrook