Posted on Jan 20, 2015
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From "The DEBKAfile"
http://www.debka.com/article/24352/Israel%E2%80%99s-climb-down-over-Golan-air-strike-We-didn%E2%80%99t-know-Hizballah%E2%80%99s-convoy-carried-high-Iranian-officers
Israel’s climb-down over Golan air strike: We didn’t know Hizballah’s convoy carried high Iranian officers
Israel Tuesday, Jan. 20, used Western and Arab media outlets for "clarification” to Tehran of the purpose of its air strike over the Golan Sunday, asserting that Revolutionary Guards Gen. Mohammad “Ali Allah Dadi and his staff of five were not known to be traveling in the Hizballah convoy and were not the target.
“We thought we were hitting an enemy field unit that was on its way to carry out an attack on us at the frontier fence,’ a senior security official in Tel Aviv informed the media. “We went on the alert, we spotted the vehicle, identified it as an enemy vehicle and took the shot,” he said, adding: “We saw this as a limited tactical operation.”
This semi-apology, say debkafile’s military and intelligence sources, was intended to tell Tehran that had Israeli intelligence identified the group of high-ranking Iranian officers in the Golan convoy, the air strike would have been called off. There was no reason why an intelligence mistake should cause a broad or even a limited military showdown between Iran and Israel, was the implied message.
[EDITORIAL COMMENT:- Interesting. Now do you think that Iran is going to accept Israel's "Ooops, sorry about that." without further payment? Or is the Iranian government going to "show itself as the face of peace" by acknowledging that mistakes do happen?]
http://www.debka.com/article/24352/Israel%E2%80%99s-climb-down-over-Golan-air-strike-We-didn%E2%80%99t-know-Hizballah%E2%80%99s-convoy-carried-high-Iranian-officers
Israel’s climb-down over Golan air strike: We didn’t know Hizballah’s convoy carried high Iranian officers
Israel Tuesday, Jan. 20, used Western and Arab media outlets for "clarification” to Tehran of the purpose of its air strike over the Golan Sunday, asserting that Revolutionary Guards Gen. Mohammad “Ali Allah Dadi and his staff of five were not known to be traveling in the Hizballah convoy and were not the target.
“We thought we were hitting an enemy field unit that was on its way to carry out an attack on us at the frontier fence,’ a senior security official in Tel Aviv informed the media. “We went on the alert, we spotted the vehicle, identified it as an enemy vehicle and took the shot,” he said, adding: “We saw this as a limited tactical operation.”
This semi-apology, say debkafile’s military and intelligence sources, was intended to tell Tehran that had Israeli intelligence identified the group of high-ranking Iranian officers in the Golan convoy, the air strike would have been called off. There was no reason why an intelligence mistake should cause a broad or even a limited military showdown between Iran and Israel, was the implied message.
[EDITORIAL COMMENT:- Interesting. Now do you think that Iran is going to accept Israel's "Ooops, sorry about that." without further payment? Or is the Iranian government going to "show itself as the face of peace" by acknowledging that mistakes do happen?]
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COL Ted Mc, I'll take the Israeli government at its word, but in response to your question:
"Or is the Iranian government going to 'show itself as the face of peace' by acknowledging that mistakes do happen?"
Iran, the "face of peace"? I don't see that happening, sir. Just my personal opinion.
"Or is the Iranian government going to 'show itself as the face of peace' by acknowledging that mistakes do happen?"
Iran, the "face of peace"? I don't see that happening, sir. Just my personal opinion.
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COL Ted Mc
CW5 (Join to see) Mr. Montomery; I did say "show" not "be". This is a really great opportunity for some good PR for the Iranians.
Do I believe that they are as "peaceful" as they say they are? Not a chance. Do I think that they are as "non-peaceful" as the US government says they are? Not a chance. Do they have a justifiable grievance against the United States of America? Well, if you don't count the fact that the US governments funded Saddam Hussen's regime in an (almost) eight year long war against Iran and provided Saddam Hussein's regime with (at least the capacity to build) WMD to be used on the Iranians, absolutely not. I mean, the Iranians had absolutely no right to toss out an American backed absolute monarchy and install their own government without the permission of the American government. Right?
Do I believe that they are as "peaceful" as they say they are? Not a chance. Do I think that they are as "non-peaceful" as the US government says they are? Not a chance. Do they have a justifiable grievance against the United States of America? Well, if you don't count the fact that the US governments funded Saddam Hussen's regime in an (almost) eight year long war against Iran and provided Saddam Hussein's regime with (at least the capacity to build) WMD to be used on the Iranians, absolutely not. I mean, the Iranians had absolutely no right to toss out an American backed absolute monarchy and install their own government without the permission of the American government. Right?
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SSG Charles Coats
Great point regarding the Iran/Iraq War with regard to U.S./Iranian relations sir. Also, a Shah backed monarchy that had the Savak as it's private, torturing, secret, police force. Americans have been mislead (to say the least) when it comes to Iranian history with America in that, they think our history started when the hostage crisis happened in 1979, not realizing that it goes back to 1953, and even earlier.
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An update from "The Jerusalem Post"
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israel-says-leaked-report-of-Netanyahu-Mossad-rift-on-Iran-sanctions-is-Obamas-revenge-388554?utm_source=Newsletter+1-22-2015&utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_medium=email
srael source says leaked report of Netanyahu-Mossad rift on Iran sanctions is 'Obama's revenge'
Israeli officials in Jerusalem told Army Radio on Thursday that a report in Bloomberg highlighting the rift between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the vaunted intelligence agency Mossad over Iran sanctions was “the Obama administration’s revenge” over the Republican-controlled Congress’ invitation to the premier to speak before a joint session without consulting the White House.
According to the report, officials from Mossad have lobbied Congressional and administration officials to refrain from imposing new sanctions against Iran for fear that it would lead to a collapse of the Western powers’ talks with the Islamic Republic over its nuclear program.
[EDITORIAL COMMENT:- Which does lead one to believe that the killing of the Iranian general was NOT something done after due deliberation. You can expect that some low-level heads with "officially" roll.]
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israel-says-leaked-report-of-Netanyahu-Mossad-rift-on-Iran-sanctions-is-Obamas-revenge-388554?utm_source=Newsletter+1-22-2015&utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_medium=email
srael source says leaked report of Netanyahu-Mossad rift on Iran sanctions is 'Obama's revenge'
Israeli officials in Jerusalem told Army Radio on Thursday that a report in Bloomberg highlighting the rift between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the vaunted intelligence agency Mossad over Iran sanctions was “the Obama administration’s revenge” over the Republican-controlled Congress’ invitation to the premier to speak before a joint session without consulting the White House.
According to the report, officials from Mossad have lobbied Congressional and administration officials to refrain from imposing new sanctions against Iran for fear that it would lead to a collapse of the Western powers’ talks with the Islamic Republic over its nuclear program.
[EDITORIAL COMMENT:- Which does lead one to believe that the killing of the Iranian general was NOT something done after due deliberation. You can expect that some low-level heads with "officially" roll.]
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If I was the Prime Minister of Israel and my intelligence agency told me that a high ranking military official from a country that has publicly announced the complete destruction of my country and it's people was travelling in a country that is supporting IS, that has pledged the same destruction and has acted on it previously...I would take the shot!
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
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COL Ted Mc
I would have been tempted to take the shot as well - if I really didn't care about the long-term effects I might even have taken it.
PS - Contrary to the loudly proclaimed position of those who should know better, the Iranians have NOT pledged the "complete destruction of the (Jewish) population of Israel (or any other place for that matter). They have announced their determination to "eliminate" the STATE of Israel (often citing "historical" justifications which are just as shaky as the Israeli's "historical" justifications for having a country).
Face it, the Israelis seized their country through force of arms (the "historically acceptable" way of doing it) and they are going to keep it until someone bigger/tougher/sneakier comes along and takes it away from them through force of arms.
PS - Contrary to the loudly proclaimed position of those who should know better, the Iranians have NOT pledged the "complete destruction of the (Jewish) population of Israel (or any other place for that matter). They have announced their determination to "eliminate" the STATE of Israel (often citing "historical" justifications which are just as shaky as the Israeli's "historical" justifications for having a country).
Face it, the Israelis seized their country through force of arms (the "historically acceptable" way of doing it) and they are going to keep it until someone bigger/tougher/sneakier comes along and takes it away from them through force of arms.
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Sir please see the following news links (note this was a quick Google search which displayed 39,800,000 results): http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-supreme-leader-calls-for-israels-annihilation/
http://www.timesofisrael.com/huge-iran-al-quds-day-rallies-call-for-death-to-israel/
If we use your logic, I guess the Native Americans should technically want to wipe us out of Northern America because we were bigger, tougher and sneakier. Hell we even used biological agents against them.
I'm not saying the entire populace wants to wipe out Israel but their leadership does. Governments with ideology like Iran can become the next Nazi Regime.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/huge-iran-al-quds-day-rallies-call-for-death-to-israel/
If we use your logic, I guess the Native Americans should technically want to wipe us out of Northern America because we were bigger, tougher and sneakier. Hell we even used biological agents against them.
I'm not saying the entire populace wants to wipe out Israel but their leadership does. Governments with ideology like Iran can become the next Nazi Regime.
Iranian supreme leader calls for Israel’s ‘annihilation’
On Twitter, Ayatollah Khamenei says ‘barbaric, wolflike & infanticidal regime’ must be destroyed, West Bank Palestinians armed
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SSG (Join to see)
If they were really intent on killing all the Jews, why would there be thousands living peacefully in Iran? They and pretty much everyone else in the region are only upset because a Jewish religious state was established, it is that government they want annihilated.
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