Posted on Jan 13, 2016
Did the media do harm by publishing names of service members?
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Did the Junction City, KS, P.D., local media there and the Army Times harm the safety of the Soldiers that were arrested due to publishing their photo, names, ranks, age, MOS', and Units?
This is a breach of security for the Soldiers, their Units and the Post. I'm thinking that this isn't much different than the recent hacking of OPM files except that it's minus the finger print record being published too.
I'm looking at what the Army Times published in disbelief.
The headline is sensationalist to grab readership and does nothing to protect the Soldiers. I do not think it is necessary for them to publish this much information about the individuals involved.
Here is the situation: "Every soldier arrested that night was charged with possession of marijuana because a single marijuana cigarette was found at the party, McCullum said, citing information the Army has received from police. No one admitted to owning the cigarette, so police officers cited everyone with possession, she said."
This is a breach of security for the Soldiers, their Units and the Post. I'm thinking that this isn't much different than the recent hacking of OPM files except that it's minus the finger print record being published too.
I'm looking at what the Army Times published in disbelief.
The headline is sensationalist to grab readership and does nothing to protect the Soldiers. I do not think it is necessary for them to publish this much information about the individuals involved.
Here is the situation: "Every soldier arrested that night was charged with possession of marijuana because a single marijuana cigarette was found at the party, McCullum said, citing information the Army has received from police. No one admitted to owning the cigarette, so police officers cited everyone with possession, she said."
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I see what you mean, but it's not much different than had anyone else did the crime. Name, age, race sometimes, and location. Also the Army Times has begun posting the courts martial and the names of those involved, rank, location of trial, and a synopsis of what they did and the outcome. This might sound harsh, but did those Soldiers think about what would we think when they did it? Did they care? And if that one troop stopped, would this have happened? Junction City and Manhattan aren't the most "glamorous" of places, neither is Ogden, but those Soldiers knew the standards, and more than likely have done this before. You hardly catch a Soldier using drugs and it's the "first time" even though that's what you're told. I remember back when a Soldier got an Art15, the SSN was blacked out, but everything else was there, and it was posted in the common areas to deter the rest of us clowns from doing the same thing. Sometimes it worked, others didn't listen till theirs was posted.
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SSG Daniel Deiler
CPT (Join to see) I see what you're saying...not sure if you saw my post earlier in the thread though...Soldier names and info like that provided can easily be obtained through Social Media or AKO White Pages. The breach that occurred to OPM Files had more detailed PII such as SSN's and home addresses.
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SSG Daniel Deiler - True but there is enough information listed to cause issues and to search them on AKO or other Social media you have to know their names first, which isn't available to the public until it was released to them by the media.
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SGT Sean Wike This is a police tactic and will not stand up in court because being present where alcohol or narcotics are present does not make one guilty of possession as these men were charged but that is not the point I'm trying to make. The point is that unlike civilian publication of an arrest, they included the positions and place of employment for each one of them. It was not necessary to include this information in the press release.
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CPT (Join to see) TSgt Hunter Logan this information should not be publicly available to non military personnel. A person's MOS and even rank are not part of a police report. It is not done for civilian employees
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PO2 Jeffery Marcussen Sr
CPT (Join to see) - i would have to agree as well military information regardless of a states laws and regardless of on or off post should not be public purview to post in the paper. and the cops really pissed up a rope by not doing drug testing to find out who actually participated in using the joint. although contact inhalation just being in the room could possibly blur the test. i have been on drug destruction operations where we took drugs we impounded to a incinerator for destruction and the people in the area would get a contact buzz just from breathing in the smoke from the incinerator. if we had been tested after we would have had a false positive result. although stronger results would have been indicated by those who actually inhaled then those who just were in the room breathing secondhand smoke depending on their exposure time. all in all though if the ones not involved had been as smart as our people are supposed to be. since almost all personnel are usually educated in drug use avoidance protocols. would have known to get the heck out of there as soon as they found out illegal drugs were in use.
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PO2 Jeffery Marcussen Sr - Thanks for adding to the discussion. We're in agreement. Had the same thing for those when large burns happened outside.
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Absolutely this was a breech and I feel it's harmful to the Soldiers, the unit and the post.
All the civilians will see if something bad happen and Soldiers were involved is "Well, you know those Soldiers at (insert unit) have that reputation."
Putting up NJPs at the unit is one thing. Putting house business out in the street is completely unacceptable
All the civilians will see if something bad happen and Soldiers were involved is "Well, you know those Soldiers at (insert unit) have that reputation."
Putting up NJPs at the unit is one thing. Putting house business out in the street is completely unacceptable
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