Posted on Sep 8, 2015
Did you know about Lies They Tell Transitioning Veterans, Part 1: Your MOS is Your Destiny?
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RP Members this is just one author's opinion - what feedback to you have with regard to Transition Programs in your various branches? (See Complete article below)
Did you know about Lies They Tell Transitioning Veterans, Part 1: Your MOS is Your Destiny?
By Peter Gudmundsson
CEO & President at RecruitMilitary
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lies-tell-transitioning-veterans-part-1-your-mos-peter-gudmundsson?trk=pulse-det-nav_art
For some years, all transitioning military personnel have been required to complete career planning classes before they leave active service. Known by acronyms like TAPS, ACAPS or GPS, these courses aim to confer to the soon-to-be veteran the skills, attitude and contacts he or she will need to conduct an effective job search. During those precious hours, well intentioned contract instructors labor to convey the best-practices experiences of the thousands of personnel who have transitioned before. Much of the content is good, like how to write a resume, but many of the learning points are unhelpful at best and damaging at worst. While teachers struggle to hold the attention of daydreaming of home men and women of all ranks, the service members learn lessons that will be damaging to their transitions. Veteran job seekers who are ambitious and driven will do well to beware of these counterproductive messages and in many cases do the opposite of what is taught.
This is the first in a series entitled “Lies They Tell Transitioning Veterans.” The title is not intended to be incendiary but it should grab the attention of the veteran reader. The cumulative effect of these transition class errors is to derail the job search of many and to diminish the effectiveness of the others.
First, we look at the pernicious message that one’s assigned Military Occupational Specialty (“MOS”) will dictate one’s civilian career options. In subsequent installments we will review other assumptions and errors.
In the past few years, “experts” have explained partially the apparent disconnect between the demand for effective workers and the supply of high quality veteran talent as a matter of the former simply not understanding the latter. In this view, if the hiring company or the job candidate veteran were to simply insert her Military Occupational Specialty code into a software box, an algorithm could “translate” the job experience into a civilian job title that would make sense. Most MOS translation software is either humorously obvious (e.g. an Army truck driver can drive civilian trucks) or discouragingly limited (an infantry sergeant should be a security guard). For most veterans these software programs are an exercise in limiting their options rather than expanding them.
Veterans spend an inordinate amount of time focused on the superficial terminology of their resumes and become restricted in what they think they are qualified to do. Instead, job seekers should think of their MOS like a college major. If an MOS is directly applicable to a civilian job that the veteran wants to continue (e.g. medical technician, pilot or electrician), he should use it to demonstrate his fit and qualification. If not, as with those who served in the combat arms, it should be seen as an opportunity to demonstrate intangible characteristics rather than specific job skills. For example, a former Army Ranger should have no trouble communicating that he is tough, team oriented and doggedly determined to accomplish his quota in a sales job. This is much like the fact that no one who understands the value of a quality liberal arts education should ever suggest that a History or English major is good for nothing but teaching.
Who you are is much more important that what you were classified to do in the military. Know how your military experience might be valuable in the civilian market on a conceptual level if the literal aspects are not compelling. For example, there is little demand for computing artillery firing data in the civilian world but there is tremendous need for people who can work with numbers on team with very tight deadlines and lots of pressure. Concentrate on communicating those benefits rather than apologizing that you don’t fit exactly the enumerated job skills of the civilian position.
Your military experience is in high demand in the civilian world. It is the reason why veteran unemployment is lower than civilian employment. Veterans make great employees. Have confidence in who you are and what you are capable of accomplishing. Tell your story and don’t let any piece of software or a misguided classification of your experience hold you back.
Peter A. Gudmundsson is a former US Marine artillery officer and is the CEO of RecruitMilitary, the nation’s leading provider of veteran hiring solutions. He may be reached at @PAGudmundsson or on Linkedin.
Did you know about Lies They Tell Transitioning Veterans, Part 1: Your MOS is Your Destiny?
By Peter Gudmundsson
CEO & President at RecruitMilitary
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lies-tell-transitioning-veterans-part-1-your-mos-peter-gudmundsson?trk=pulse-det-nav_art
For some years, all transitioning military personnel have been required to complete career planning classes before they leave active service. Known by acronyms like TAPS, ACAPS or GPS, these courses aim to confer to the soon-to-be veteran the skills, attitude and contacts he or she will need to conduct an effective job search. During those precious hours, well intentioned contract instructors labor to convey the best-practices experiences of the thousands of personnel who have transitioned before. Much of the content is good, like how to write a resume, but many of the learning points are unhelpful at best and damaging at worst. While teachers struggle to hold the attention of daydreaming of home men and women of all ranks, the service members learn lessons that will be damaging to their transitions. Veteran job seekers who are ambitious and driven will do well to beware of these counterproductive messages and in many cases do the opposite of what is taught.
This is the first in a series entitled “Lies They Tell Transitioning Veterans.” The title is not intended to be incendiary but it should grab the attention of the veteran reader. The cumulative effect of these transition class errors is to derail the job search of many and to diminish the effectiveness of the others.
First, we look at the pernicious message that one’s assigned Military Occupational Specialty (“MOS”) will dictate one’s civilian career options. In subsequent installments we will review other assumptions and errors.
In the past few years, “experts” have explained partially the apparent disconnect between the demand for effective workers and the supply of high quality veteran talent as a matter of the former simply not understanding the latter. In this view, if the hiring company or the job candidate veteran were to simply insert her Military Occupational Specialty code into a software box, an algorithm could “translate” the job experience into a civilian job title that would make sense. Most MOS translation software is either humorously obvious (e.g. an Army truck driver can drive civilian trucks) or discouragingly limited (an infantry sergeant should be a security guard). For most veterans these software programs are an exercise in limiting their options rather than expanding them.
Veterans spend an inordinate amount of time focused on the superficial terminology of their resumes and become restricted in what they think they are qualified to do. Instead, job seekers should think of their MOS like a college major. If an MOS is directly applicable to a civilian job that the veteran wants to continue (e.g. medical technician, pilot or electrician), he should use it to demonstrate his fit and qualification. If not, as with those who served in the combat arms, it should be seen as an opportunity to demonstrate intangible characteristics rather than specific job skills. For example, a former Army Ranger should have no trouble communicating that he is tough, team oriented and doggedly determined to accomplish his quota in a sales job. This is much like the fact that no one who understands the value of a quality liberal arts education should ever suggest that a History or English major is good for nothing but teaching.
Who you are is much more important that what you were classified to do in the military. Know how your military experience might be valuable in the civilian market on a conceptual level if the literal aspects are not compelling. For example, there is little demand for computing artillery firing data in the civilian world but there is tremendous need for people who can work with numbers on team with very tight deadlines and lots of pressure. Concentrate on communicating those benefits rather than apologizing that you don’t fit exactly the enumerated job skills of the civilian position.
Your military experience is in high demand in the civilian world. It is the reason why veteran unemployment is lower than civilian employment. Veterans make great employees. Have confidence in who you are and what you are capable of accomplishing. Tell your story and don’t let any piece of software or a misguided classification of your experience hold you back.
Peter A. Gudmundsson is a former US Marine artillery officer and is the CEO of RecruitMilitary, the nation’s leading provider of veteran hiring solutions. He may be reached at @PAGudmundsson or on Linkedin.
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I didn't get a lot out of TAPS either. My issue was other service members who spent the class jerking around and being disruptive. Also, class size was way to high. I also found a lot of contradictory information between classes, esp. my resume class. I left TAP without a current squared away resume and more questions that I had before I went to class...
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SFC Mario Rodriquez
One of my pet peeves about TAP-GPS is that you must have a resume to complete your requirements, but it does not have to be a good resume. I use several analogies when I talk to veterans, so here goes. When in the military you always have someone doing something for you. If you want to eat you go to the chow hall. If you want to take leave you go to your admin and get a leave form, fill it out, and give it back. They do the rest. If you want your vehicle fixed you take it to the mechanics. The military is really set-up as a self-sufficient machine that supports itself from within. You are even told what to do to get promoted, which blocks to check, what schools to attend, and such. NOW, fast forward to your final out. Once you leave the military you are now responsible for your own survival. If you are hungry you now have to figure out where to eat. You have to find a mechanic to take your own vehicle. You have to find a place to live and deal with home ownership or leases. You also have to figure out what you want to do with your life. You have to learn how to write a resume. Not one resume, but one for every position you are interested in applying. You have to learn to sell yourself to a potential employer. You have to learn an elevator pitch. If you think that you can be taught all of that in one five day period, you have another hard luck lesson to learn. TAP-GPS, ACAP, or whatever you want to call it is a good foundation in which to begin your transition. It was never meant to hold your hand until you make that nice soft landing in the civilian world. It is the beginning. Your transition is more than just taking your uniform off and putting on a suit. It is a process and this is the first step. More to follow.
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan
SFC Mario Rodriquez
I hear what you are saying, but TAP could definitely be changed to actually assist the Soldier transitioning. I get that it is not there to "hold my hand", but teaching someone how to write a basic resume is not a lot to ask for in my opinion.
I hear what you are saying, but TAP could definitely be changed to actually assist the Soldier transitioning. I get that it is not there to "hold my hand", but teaching someone how to write a basic resume is not a lot to ask for in my opinion.
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SFC Mario Rodriquez
Resumes. They are the key to getting that interview. Jay, read this article please http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-write-the-perfect-resume-2012-11?op=1
Once you read this article, tell me, how long would YOU need to write a good resume? The TAP program does not have enough time to get you through ALL the points needed to write a good resume, but it gives you a good idea on what a good resume should consist of in terms of content. I criticize TAP, not because it is a horrible program, but because it does not allow enough time to have you work on that resume. The planners and the hard working people who teach the TAP programs would be glad to give you the time, but would you like to spend two or three additional days to just work on resumes? I didn't think so. Therefore, you have your local American Job Centers and in Florida we are all part of the CareerSource Florida workforce board. In the Tampa Bay area I work for CareerSource Tampa Bay and CareerSource Pinellas. We have resume writing classes and workshops to help fine tune those resumes, but we will not write one for you. This brings me back to one of my original points, we want to teach you to fish and not just give you fish. YOUR transition must be owned by YOU and there are many resources to assist and ultimately it is up to you to work at it. Getting a job is a job. Remember that and get to work!
Once you read this article, tell me, how long would YOU need to write a good resume? The TAP program does not have enough time to get you through ALL the points needed to write a good resume, but it gives you a good idea on what a good resume should consist of in terms of content. I criticize TAP, not because it is a horrible program, but because it does not allow enough time to have you work on that resume. The planners and the hard working people who teach the TAP programs would be glad to give you the time, but would you like to spend two or three additional days to just work on resumes? I didn't think so. Therefore, you have your local American Job Centers and in Florida we are all part of the CareerSource Florida workforce board. In the Tampa Bay area I work for CareerSource Tampa Bay and CareerSource Pinellas. We have resume writing classes and workshops to help fine tune those resumes, but we will not write one for you. This brings me back to one of my original points, we want to teach you to fish and not just give you fish. YOUR transition must be owned by YOU and there are many resources to assist and ultimately it is up to you to work at it. Getting a job is a job. Remember that and get to work!
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I have worked 3 MOS - in three different services. Today, I'm still working Marine MOS 6492 as a civil servant for the Navy in Coronado. I will say that my second service MOS was an unwanted destiny.
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The only lie I was told before I retired was that it would be six months to one year before California would taking out money for state income taxes. In reality, it started the first month that I received my retirement paycheck. I retired 31 January and received my first retirement paycheck in March.
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Thank you for posting this Colonel.
It is my understanding that these"CLASSES", have no use to the military member at the times they are provided. I understand that the DOD "thinks", they are helping, they are trying. They simply have "the wrong people in the wrong places teaching the wrong stuff".
At the times these "Time Teezers" are provided, the only thing in the Mils mind is "when the hell am I getting out of here?" "I am waiting to get on that fn plane", "I do not care, get me stateside". or "what are they talking about and why do I care right now."
I know I have not gone to these classes myself. would love to evaluate first hand, but these are just some of the issues that were raised to me by a few of mine.
It adds to their anxiety way to much, they are at a stage in their stress that they will not absorb any material until the core needs are met by that individual.
It is my understanding that these"CLASSES", have no use to the military member at the times they are provided. I understand that the DOD "thinks", they are helping, they are trying. They simply have "the wrong people in the wrong places teaching the wrong stuff".
At the times these "Time Teezers" are provided, the only thing in the Mils mind is "when the hell am I getting out of here?" "I am waiting to get on that fn plane", "I do not care, get me stateside". or "what are they talking about and why do I care right now."
I know I have not gone to these classes myself. would love to evaluate first hand, but these are just some of the issues that were raised to me by a few of mine.
It adds to their anxiety way to much, they are at a stage in their stress that they will not absorb any material until the core needs are met by that individual.
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When I left active duty I had done my owns TAPS program. I was looking two years out. I have to send my returning deployers to Yellow Ribbon and we send our transitioning out people to TAPs. Eye wash program. Our Guard unit actually invites employers 2 or 3 times each year and hold hiring seminars. We have had some success. I don't see the civilian sector prepping employees to leave. As with any program that comes as a mandated push from above...take what you need and don't expect to be gainfully employed as you leave.
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Approach life changes like a missions, which requires good intel and always verify your information and above all make use of all.
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Never went through the program, but have used skills from at least two of my former MOS's.
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When I retired from Walter Reed as a medical retiree...I thought it was a joke and was cutting into my rack time so I did not go the rest of the time (about a week-week and a half). When I turned my paperwork into the platoon sgt...said I had to go again for not showing up-had but one signature block filled out. Told him I will square it away, took my check in sheet, and scribbled signatures and initials and gave it back to the platoon sgt. There is a lot you can get away with when your blown to hell in Iraq and being forcibly retired from the US Army. This happened in September 2006.
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You know what I found out ? You have to look at every aspect of your MOS, you would be surprised at the skills you have acquired. I knew there wasn't a civilian Ordnance tech field out there. But I had a lot of related skills that are in corporate with being an ordnance tech.
1. Working in a hanger preforming various inspections, which is an Industrial skill that many Companies like The Auto, Steel, and Food manufacturers look for. Think of the safety procedures you have to practice while dismantling a Aircraft, Tank, Humvee, ect, ect.
I could go on for hrs about this. I live in the NW Indiana/ Chicago area. If anyone is heading tissue way I can help point you in the right direction. General Motors is hiring at their HamTrack facility in Michigan.
1. Working in a hanger preforming various inspections, which is an Industrial skill that many Companies like The Auto, Steel, and Food manufacturers look for. Think of the safety procedures you have to practice while dismantling a Aircraft, Tank, Humvee, ect, ect.
I could go on for hrs about this. I live in the NW Indiana/ Chicago area. If anyone is heading tissue way I can help point you in the right direction. General Motors is hiring at their HamTrack facility in Michigan.
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Well I did get to work in my NEC for 5 more years after I retired in Telecommunications with Sprint. That was until the Tech Bubble Burst and I joined the group of 40 + year olds that are first to go in the Tech World turns south. Nobody wants a Old Techie.
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