Posted on Jul 12, 2023
Is it standard or even typical as a form of disciplinary action for an NCO to call a soldier's parents to complain about the service member?
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Hello Rallypoint Members!
I have a question regarding disciplinary actions that I have received from my detachment SFC. So I got myself into some trouble with an MP (argued with an MP after having a few beers), not gonna go into great detail (I own the mistakes that I made) but I am confused about one thing that my detachment sergeant has done regarding my disciplinary actions. The day after my altercation with the MP’s, my detachment SFC called me into her office, she informed me about what reprimands I could be facing (which I expected) but she also made me write down my mother and father’s phone numbers and she actually called them to tell them how much of a dirt bag I had been (which I did not expect). I am a grown man and can face the legal and moral repercussions of my own actions but was taken aback to find out that my NCO had called my family to inform them of the mistakes that I had made. Is this standard procedure in the military or even a typical form of disciplinary action for an NCO to make?
Any and all input is appreciated!
Thanks!
I have a question regarding disciplinary actions that I have received from my detachment SFC. So I got myself into some trouble with an MP (argued with an MP after having a few beers), not gonna go into great detail (I own the mistakes that I made) but I am confused about one thing that my detachment sergeant has done regarding my disciplinary actions. The day after my altercation with the MP’s, my detachment SFC called me into her office, she informed me about what reprimands I could be facing (which I expected) but she also made me write down my mother and father’s phone numbers and she actually called them to tell them how much of a dirt bag I had been (which I did not expect). I am a grown man and can face the legal and moral repercussions of my own actions but was taken aback to find out that my NCO had called my family to inform them of the mistakes that I had made. Is this standard procedure in the military or even a typical form of disciplinary action for an NCO to make?
Any and all input is appreciated!
Thanks!
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Perhaps I'm showing my age, but I find it incredible that any military authority would involve your parents in a disciplinary situation unless they were directly involved in the incident. One of the objectives of recruit training is the recognition that the serviceman alone is responsible and accountable for his actions and held accountable for his/her conduct under the UCMJ. Including a persons parents in the resolution of conduct matters sounds like the sandlot "I'm going to tell your Mommy" reaction.
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CPL James S.
SPC (Join to see) - why did you hide your name, Lee Taylor? You do know your name is still listed in all the e-mails that notified me of a response, right?
so I'll reiterate (that's a fancy way of saying I'm going to repeat myself): https://dyslexiahelp.umich.edu/tools/apps/learn-read-write-and-spell-free
so I'll reiterate (that's a fancy way of saying I'm going to repeat myself): https://dyslexiahelp.umich.edu/tools/apps/learn-read-write-and-spell-free
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CPL James S. - And all that proves mommies little tit sucker and daddies little asshole cleaner is u are just like a DUMB infantry POT and u ARE environmental waste.
And demoncrat ur the one that needs what u post not me bitch.
And demoncrat ur the one that needs what u post not me bitch.
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CPT Larry Hudson
Rally Point does not need to read an argument between two soldiers or civilians. Find a site that welcomes such dribble.
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CPT Larry Hudson - SIT ON IT KID! When u are supporting using NONE military to try to get soldiers to change what u are doing U ARE WRONG PERIOD.
And I do not need a low life little boy like u getting into things.
And I do not need a low life little boy like u getting into things.
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After counseling and retraining, I have called a parent -- that was because through counseling I found that the dad (retired army) was a huge influence on my Soldier's life. Use all the tools in the toolbox; in this case, the tool was able to explain the consequences of continued actions in a more relatable manner to the Soldier. Soldier matured and was pivotal downrange...
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
CSM Chuck Stafford -
When Our Military Forces Become Baby-Sitting Services THAT'S Gone Way Too Far.
If A Person Lacks The Maturity To Serve ~~ Toss Him Back In The River & Go Fishing For Another Whom Does..... We Don't RAISE Them ~ We TRAIN Them.!!~~
~~ Let Their Mama Finish Her Job First,~~
When Our Military Forces Become Baby-Sitting Services THAT'S Gone Way Too Far.
If A Person Lacks The Maturity To Serve ~~ Toss Him Back In The River & Go Fishing For Another Whom Does..... We Don't RAISE Them ~ We TRAIN Them.!!~~
~~ Let Their Mama Finish Her Job First,~~
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CSM Chuck Stafford
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney - It is a rich man who can see the dirt covering the gold nugget and not throw it back into the river...
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
CSM Chuck Stafford -
And A Blind Fisherman, Whom Goes Into The River To Find It.
And, BTW: Not Even Close To The Same Thing....
And I'd Certainly Not Refer To Such A Person As A "Gold Nugget".
He's An Immature Older Boy, Whom Is In Need Of Growing Up,
NOT Raised By The Military ~~ For His "Possibilities"
And A Blind Fisherman, Whom Goes Into The River To Find It.
And, BTW: Not Even Close To The Same Thing....
And I'd Certainly Not Refer To Such A Person As A "Gold Nugget".
He's An Immature Older Boy, Whom Is In Need Of Growing Up,
NOT Raised By The Military ~~ For His "Possibilities"
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the importance of keeping a variety of tools in one's toolbox. Doesn't mean you always use any give one... but having it available for just the right moment is magic.
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Neither standard nor typical. That is reserved for only a very select few - those we see potential in, we belive are heading down the wrong path, and their NCOs have not been able to get through to them. And the Soldier in question is usually very young and at their first duty station, and their first time being out from under mommy and daddy.
Most of the time the goal is that one or both of your parents will lay into you and give you hell in a way that will get your attention. The hope is that, as your NCOs have not been able to provide that necessary "come to Jesus" moment, your parents will.
Most of the time the goal is that one or both of your parents will lay into you and give you hell in a way that will get your attention. The hope is that, as your NCOs have not been able to provide that necessary "come to Jesus" moment, your parents will.
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SSG S Dawson boy you just have to put your two cents in every response get off your f$$# keyboard jockey
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