Posted on Jul 12, 2023
Is it standard or even typical as a form of disciplinary action for an NCO to call a soldier's parents to complain about the service member?
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Hello Rallypoint Members!
I have a question regarding disciplinary actions that I have received from my detachment SFC. So I got myself into some trouble with an MP (argued with an MP after having a few beers), not gonna go into great detail (I own the mistakes that I made) but I am confused about one thing that my detachment sergeant has done regarding my disciplinary actions. The day after my altercation with the MP’s, my detachment SFC called me into her office, she informed me about what reprimands I could be facing (which I expected) but she also made me write down my mother and father’s phone numbers and she actually called them to tell them how much of a dirt bag I had been (which I did not expect). I am a grown man and can face the legal and moral repercussions of my own actions but was taken aback to find out that my NCO had called my family to inform them of the mistakes that I had made. Is this standard procedure in the military or even a typical form of disciplinary action for an NCO to make?
Any and all input is appreciated!
Thanks!
I have a question regarding disciplinary actions that I have received from my detachment SFC. So I got myself into some trouble with an MP (argued with an MP after having a few beers), not gonna go into great detail (I own the mistakes that I made) but I am confused about one thing that my detachment sergeant has done regarding my disciplinary actions. The day after my altercation with the MP’s, my detachment SFC called me into her office, she informed me about what reprimands I could be facing (which I expected) but she also made me write down my mother and father’s phone numbers and she actually called them to tell them how much of a dirt bag I had been (which I did not expect). I am a grown man and can face the legal and moral repercussions of my own actions but was taken aback to find out that my NCO had called my family to inform them of the mistakes that I had made. Is this standard procedure in the military or even a typical form of disciplinary action for an NCO to make?
Any and all input is appreciated!
Thanks!
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Responses: 217
This doesn't seem necessary to reach out to someone's mother or father in this situation but then again you never know how a Soldier may respond to such decisions made (positive or negative).
In a similar situation a one of my battles from basic training who was in my platoon was accused of calling a female trainee the B word. My senior drill sergeant made him call his mother. His mother didn't pick up the call so the DS left a voice message yelling about how she didn't appreciate her son calling another woman a B and how would she feel he called his own mother a B... (he said he never said the B word). My battle maintained his composure, took whatever criticism he had coming and moved on. We both graduated basic training but here's the kicker...the Soldier went back home to Texas(he was national guard) and spoke to his recruiter about an issue with his BA in criminal justice initially not being included in his recruitment paperwork. Things got smoothed out, he eventually became an LT. As a LT he spent a few months in Qatar(all of this is within his first contract). After 2/3 months in Qatar guess who he sees??? Our former drill sergeant from basic training. He told me when the former DS saw him she was staring at him with such a screwed up face. As they crossed paths he purposely stopped in front of her because he was waiting for her to salute him (she was SSG). He tell she didn't want to do it but she did it. If she didn't he planned to take it up with her leadership. Small world. You never know now things might turn around for you.
In a similar situation a one of my battles from basic training who was in my platoon was accused of calling a female trainee the B word. My senior drill sergeant made him call his mother. His mother didn't pick up the call so the DS left a voice message yelling about how she didn't appreciate her son calling another woman a B and how would she feel he called his own mother a B... (he said he never said the B word). My battle maintained his composure, took whatever criticism he had coming and moved on. We both graduated basic training but here's the kicker...the Soldier went back home to Texas(he was national guard) and spoke to his recruiter about an issue with his BA in criminal justice initially not being included in his recruitment paperwork. Things got smoothed out, he eventually became an LT. As a LT he spent a few months in Qatar(all of this is within his first contract). After 2/3 months in Qatar guess who he sees??? Our former drill sergeant from basic training. He told me when the former DS saw him she was staring at him with such a screwed up face. As they crossed paths he purposely stopped in front of her because he was waiting for her to salute him (she was SSG). He tell she didn't want to do it but she did it. If she didn't he planned to take it up with her leadership. Small world. You never know now things might turn around for you.
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I do not believe that they had the authority to call yoiur parents!
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In Caifornia where I'm from after age 18 your'e an adult. So I say with all due respect the SFC is out of bounds regardless of rank or status. 4/7 Inf Bn 3ID 1988-1992
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When I was a new LT my battalion commander directed that all platoon leaders write a letter of introduction to the parents of all our Soldier directly out of basic training. Initially, I thought it was a little corny until one of my Soldier wrote $300 worth of bad check to the Exchange in 1989. After explaining the situation to his father and giving him the phone and hearing his Drill Sergeant Daddy eat him up I kinda felt bad. His parents paid the bill so he didn't receive any UCMJ punishment or go on the AFFES bad check list. After that he was a model Soldier and Outstanding NCO. Some young people leave home and get with the wrong crowd. Their parents can give them a reality check without destroying their lives.
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Seems illegal to me! Soldiers are adults and are entitled to some level of privacy. I would never contact family without the Soldier’s authorization
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Wow. The NCO that called your parents is the dirt bag. I served from 01 to 14 starting as a SPC and involuntarily separated as a CPT. I had my fair share of interesting characters. The only time I ever saw parental involvement was when it was destruction of government property from intentional negligence. What you describe should have been taken care of through the good ole Oak Tree Counseling or unit level.
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