Posted on Nov 7, 2014
Disrespected while correcting a Soldier, how would you handle this situation?
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Ok so there I was at a court-martial asking a Soldier why he was wearing ACUs and not ASUs. He started to catch an attitude, so I told him to go to parade rest. He turned away from me looking at my paralegal, putting his hands in his pockets.
My paralegal tells him that he does not need to be looking at him, but at me, because I was the one addressing him, and that he needs to show respect. As the Soldier continues to stare out at my paralegal with his hands in his pockets, I continue to correct him when a civilian comes out to where I was correcting the Soldier stating that she had work to do and I could "yell" at him some other time.
I was so mind boggled and dumbfounded because said civilian used to be in the military. I'm sorry, but the last time I checked the Soldier was given a direct order by a CPT and myself that the duty uniform for the court-martial was ASUs and an alternate uniform had to be approved by the judge, so I was doing my job by asking him why he was in the wrong uniform and then correcting him when he began to disrespect me.
I felt so disrespected I just walked away and sat in a room to cool off.
How would you have handled the situation?
My paralegal tells him that he does not need to be looking at him, but at me, because I was the one addressing him, and that he needs to show respect. As the Soldier continues to stare out at my paralegal with his hands in his pockets, I continue to correct him when a civilian comes out to where I was correcting the Soldier stating that she had work to do and I could "yell" at him some other time.
I was so mind boggled and dumbfounded because said civilian used to be in the military. I'm sorry, but the last time I checked the Soldier was given a direct order by a CPT and myself that the duty uniform for the court-martial was ASUs and an alternate uniform had to be approved by the judge, so I was doing my job by asking him why he was in the wrong uniform and then correcting him when he began to disrespect me.
I felt so disrespected I just walked away and sat in a room to cool off.
How would you have handled the situation?
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Edited 11 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
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I'm glad I didn't have soldiers under my supervision that were this disrespectful. The civilians I worked around (Okinawa) never interfered with us in our duties. Given how I was then, it would've been hard for me to just walk away in the face of total insubordination. We didn't keep soldiers like this in our unit. You were doing the "duffel bag drag" by COB!
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IMHO... Where was the judge during this? If a civilian disrespected an NCO correcting a soldier why didn't the judge jump down said civilians throat? Judge controls the Court Room and the civilian certainly works for them.
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I would have automatically written the Soldier up for disrespect and sent it throw the chain of command.
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Immediate Corrective Training, IE: Smoke his A$$, right there in the courtroom! Then counselling and petition for extra duty, along with a psych eval!
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Why was the presiding officer of the court-martial allowing a civilian to disrupt the proceedings with some petty BS like that? Not to disrespect the Army, but I know exactly what a Marine presiding officer would have done in that situation.
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It really depends. Infantry would require immediate wall-to-wall counseling, if not by one NCO, then by two, three, or whatever number of NCOs necessary. The more civilized surroundings, the more necessity to bite one's tongue, control temper, and begin to discuss the meaning of Articles 91 and 92 of the UCMJ.
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Just maintain your cool calm and professional demeanor and let him have it with a smile. It works most of the time Hooah
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