Posted on Sep 30, 2018
Do 9-month overseas rotations qualify as ‘deployments’ for the Army’s ‘deploy or get out’ policy?
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Do 9-month operational deployments qualify for the Army’s new ‘deploy or get out’ policy? Far more are going to these overseas missions these days and fewer headed to combat deployments. Those 9-month rotations do not technically qualify as deployments: no patch, fewer financial benefits, other restrictions. One can hope that this policy factors in those who serve on 9-month overseas rotations.
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The army doesn’t have a ‘deploy or get out policy’. It does have a policy that soldiers who are medically non-deployable for >12 months be separated from the service unless granted a waiver.
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COL (Join to see)
No worries Common misunderstanding. Mostly due to sloppy ‘journalism ‘ from Military Times, et al.
I never cease to be amazed at what Army policy/regulation actually says versus what ‘people’ say it says. Ha ha.
I never cease to be amazed at what Army policy/regulation actually says versus what ‘people’ say it says. Ha ha.
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When they say “deployable” they mean Soldiers that can be deployed at a moments notice. Not necessarily meaning if you haven’t deployed you get it. Just means you have to have your medical records straight and no issues preventing you from going on a oconus tour.
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SGM Erik Marquez
Well done SSG.....
So you have the supporting doc for your correct understanding if you don't already https://partner-mco-archive.s3.amazonaws.com/client_files/ [login to see] .pdf
So you have the supporting doc for your correct understanding if you don't already https://partner-mco-archive.s3.amazonaws.com/client_files/ [login to see] .pdf
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CSM Charles Hayden
WO1 (Join to see) In my day: it was POR Qualified. A Potential Overseas Replacement would have had necessary shots, legal documents prepared and a Geneva Convention Card.
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I think they mean these also as deployments, because you need to be trained, medically cleared to go on these 9 moth what ever you call them. We as in Navy and Marines call these deployments period does not matter Combat or not. The purpose of these deployments in our eyes or floating around is to be mission ready to respond to anything form Combat, HA/CA and missions other then war.
I believe as Army does more of these, not exactly Germany, but Africa as many are deployed there, they will be called deployments. The problem is Army was normally a stay on their home base type organization, meaning places like Germany and Korea, but as we have pulled more units out, they have to deploy back there form US to conduct presence training and taring in that AOR and then redeploy back. Notice word deploy used a lot. Sorry again as this is coming from a Navy guy that every time we leave out to another area, we count as deployment.
I believe as Army does more of these, not exactly Germany, but Africa as many are deployed there, they will be called deployments. The problem is Army was normally a stay on their home base type organization, meaning places like Germany and Korea, but as we have pulled more units out, they have to deploy back there form US to conduct presence training and taring in that AOR and then redeploy back. Notice word deploy used a lot. Sorry again as this is coming from a Navy guy that every time we leave out to another area, we count as deployment.
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CH (MAJ) William Beaver Sir, there is no policy directing you must deploy or get out...The Policy is you must be deployable...or more specifically, must not be Nondeployable for 12 months or more.
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SGM Erik Marquez
CH (MAJ) William Beaver - Sir this begs the question.... How did you get the understanding it was a requirement to be deployed every 12 month or separate? And, if you thought that....how many others on FT Hood think that?
Was it a confusing briefing? Some random comment made at CMD & Staff? Just your understanding from an article you read?
Was it a confusing briefing? Some random comment made at CMD & Staff? Just your understanding from an article you read?
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A service member can go to their primary care provider or PCM and really express to them they need to stay deployable unless it is detrimental to their health. If I wanted to I can tell my PCM I have had enough of the Army and I am in pain and upgrade my P2 profile to a P3 and request MEB but I am going to keep on trucking and Soldiering until August of 2020. I still pass the APFT minus a few events and I walk. So all that what I just said means I am able to deploy but will I? Probably not.
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CH (MAJ) William Beaver
I’m carrying around a P2 but....am deployed, so.... we’ll see. Alot of factors come into play.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
CH (MAJ) William Beaver I’m in an organization where deployments appreciated. If someone is having problems they just get a replacement from multiple volunteers of the best qualified.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
I’ve noticed that. Deploying is almost a privilege now if there are plenty of fish to select from.
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1. The "Deploy or get out policy" (from what I can tell) is actually just enforcing guidance found in AR 40-501, already.
2. The question isn't so much about going, as being determined "ABLE" to deploy.. (So other SRP items may also creep in, about things like family care plans, etc.).
2. The question isn't so much about going, as being determined "ABLE" to deploy.. (So other SRP items may also creep in, about things like family care plans, etc.).
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You'd think it would be a small factor in the equation. Interesting share sir.
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I didn't know about this program... that'll suck for me because I'm in an expeditionary unit. They only send very limited teams over seas, and my MOS is support so I'm a garritrooper as long as I'm here. This wont effect me will it??
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