Posted on Oct 24, 2017
Do cadets actually outrank non-commissioned officers?
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During a three-day weekend I drove to my parents house on the west coast of Florida. There was a small hurricane in the gulf. I called the office letting the Lt. know I was safe.
He said the ship was probably going to sea. I told the Lt. that we were repair crew, not ships crew. He said I had to come back. I told him that there was a hurricane between him and me. I also said I will make my decision if it was safe to drive back after the next position report at noon the next day.
I later learned the master chief in the office basically ripped this Lt. a new ***hole! A Master Chief can do that.
He said the ship was probably going to sea. I told the Lt. that we were repair crew, not ships crew. He said I had to come back. I told him that there was a hurricane between him and me. I also said I will make my decision if it was safe to drive back after the next position report at noon the next day.
I later learned the master chief in the office basically ripped this Lt. a new ***hole! A Master Chief can do that.
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LTC James McElreath
A Chief is a god in the Navy. It is a well known fact that you do not mess with the chief's, they even have their own mess! It is Navy tradition that has allowed the Chief's rank to do much as they please. In this case he may had been trying to get a break through into that ensign to use better common since. Not to belittle the ensign, his lack of judgement could had caused injury or death to others. The Chief would had been right to help educate the young ensign.
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Cadets are not commissioned (yet), as a Chief Petty Officer, it would have made my day...
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They say that cadets out rank NCOs but I always looked at them as interns looking for experience so I usually paid no attention to them when they tried to pull rank. Now when I really felt like having fun, I would do exactly what the cadet wanted so when things went wrong I would blame it on them. Usually when I dealt with cadets they may have had more authority but when it came to knowledge, the NCOs led the way.
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Never had that experience, but would have loved to have watched my master sgt burn one up lol.
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They are cadets. Just like new recruits who haven't finished basic. They have no rank.
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In what I remember, they are not commissioned nor enlisted.... so there you go...
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When I was in I was always saddled with training cadets. I never called them sir, it would be like calling an SPC Sergeant. If they were power tripping I would make them stand at parade rest when talking to me. Now when they commissioned I would call them sir and render the proper courtesies.
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A cadet has no rating or rank as may apply to any regular service, only may be applicable to the unit of which he is a member.
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