Posted on May 30, 2017
Do combat arms soldiers look down on fellow combat arms brethren if they have deployed and not been awarded a combat badge/medal/ribbon?
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It seems like something so trivial, but is just deploying and doing your job enough to keep the respect of your combat arms peers? Does the fact that you were hit by an IED on a convoy, close enough to a falling mortar round, or engaged by small arms fire really make one a more qualified combat arms soldier? What are thoughts on those who were never in the wrong place at the wrong time?
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SGT Joseph Gunderson It should make no difference. I have a Combat Action Ribbon, but that does not make me any better than anyone that does not. We are all brothers and sisters in arms and should treat each other with respect, and that goes with the different branches of service.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
Sgt (Join to see) Given your disclaimer, do you ever wear a mini CAR ribbon in your lapel?
Marines I happen upon express great admiration for the Combat Action Ribbon being a ‘personal decoration’ and worn on the right side of their uniform.
Marines I happen upon express great admiration for the Combat Action Ribbon being a ‘personal decoration’ and worn on the right side of their uniform.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 - I do not wear any mini ribbons, but I do see others wearing them at Veteran's Day and Memorial Day events.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
In 2006. I noticed a small ribbon n the lapel of an elder gentleman. It was a Silver Star that Fred had been awarded in Europe. We attended ‘Fred’s’ 100th birthday party in April of 2018. Fred was aging ! Hale and hearty he was using.a ‘walker’. Sgt (Join to see)
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CPT William Jones
The Marines have a more equal awarding combat action to everyone that has been shot at with direct fire.
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I served a 4 year “peace time” enlistment in the marine corps as a 3043, supply administration, primarily with 3/7, 1stMarDiv. Most of us were newbies, but the senior NCOs were Vietnam vets and treated us a little harshly, lol. As one old Gunnery Sergeant put it, “I don’t give a $h!t if you like me or not, I want you to be prepared”.
I’m a member of our local American Legion Post and most of our active membership is Korean and Vietnam veterans. We have a couple WWII vets but they have health issues. What I want to say is, we have a Korean vet and two Vietnam vets who are the real deal, in the thick of it combat veterans. It’s just the opposite for me, I hold them in very high regard.
I’m a member of our local American Legion Post and most of our active membership is Korean and Vietnam veterans. We have a couple WWII vets but they have health issues. What I want to say is, we have a Korean vet and two Vietnam vets who are the real deal, in the thick of it combat veterans. It’s just the opposite for me, I hold them in very high regard.
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SGT Tim McCoy
I served during peacetime- except I enlisted-1st VOLAR, in Jan '75. Per US Army I am a Vietnam Veteran- since I served at the end! Do not think of myself as such, did not step foot in country-am well aware of the hell those fellow soldiers endured-some did not! Very different time then- we were instructed NOT to travel in uniform due to the public's animosity toward the war and military in general. I was a 12B, trained to do several jobs- thankfully did not have to perform under fire. Closest was alerts while stationed in Graf, Germany near the Cezch border-....
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I deployed but don't have a CAB. But I can certainly attest that I have been treated better by others that have deployed since I got that patch on the right sleeve than prior to my deployment.
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SSG Ricardo Marcial
I had 5 instructors at Huachuca, all talking about Iraq and Afghanistan like the had ever been there done that. The majority of the NCOs there reclassing just ignored them. I rarely wore my badge, just to keep the focus off me. Besides, having been awarded a CAB because our leaders did not feel compelled to put in the right award in for a grunt. But that's another story.
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When I was newer I had a 1SG tell me that CIB/CAB didn’t really paint the whole picture, but if somebody had an EIB you knew they really earned that
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If you're feeling looked down upon, it is probably self-imposed stress. Yes, there are those who will pick on others for not having deployed or been in combat, but in a lot of cases, those are folks who've overinflated their own combat exploits. The vast majority of those I know not only don't look down on others, but actively seek to prepare them for the rigors of combat. That's what we call Army leadership, and if you're not thinking that way, you probably need a course correction, especially since a growing majority of soldiers from junior CPT/E-6 and below have not deployed.
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CPT William Jones
Col mark you made what I consider a small miss use of the word deployed. Any time a service member is assigned outside the USA they are deployed. Some are to a combat zone. I did that for 32 months some are to other place I also did that Germany for 13 months.
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Just remember, not all of us were in a position to be deployed. I was a Cold War soldier who lives with misplaced but real guilt for not being deployed. The closest I came to combat was saudis trying to blow me up when I was with OPMSANG for a year. I have terrible depression, anxiety and daily panic attacks. Meds keep the suicidal thoughts at bay.
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CPT William Jones
Sounds tome like you were deployed is OPMSANG outside the USA borders if so you were deployed just not to a hostile fire zone. I am an old timer and did both 32 months in RVN and another 13 or so Germany. All time considered deployed just some getting shot at the other vacation on Uncles dime and with pay.
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Badges, tabs and patches can be a door opener but once in the door, what you're doing or not doing can get you kicked out faster than a piece of cloth opened the door.
I experimented with the badges/patches thing for myself. I spent several years in the Infantry. After school and work I re-entered as a chaplain. I started in an IN OSUT unit. When I first got there, I wore rank and branch. After about a week I put my EIB, wings, tab and DS badge on and was immediately treated differently. Once all the cadre knew me, I was treated the same with or without badges. Of course, when new cadre arrived it was funny when they'd walk into my office looking for the chaplain, when they saw stuff on my uniform, they'd usually say something like, "Excuse me, I'm looking for the chaplain." Got funny looks when I said that's me.
I experimented with the badges/patches thing for myself. I spent several years in the Infantry. After school and work I re-entered as a chaplain. I started in an IN OSUT unit. When I first got there, I wore rank and branch. After about a week I put my EIB, wings, tab and DS badge on and was immediately treated differently. Once all the cadre knew me, I was treated the same with or without badges. Of course, when new cadre arrived it was funny when they'd walk into my office looking for the chaplain, when they saw stuff on my uniform, they'd usually say something like, "Excuse me, I'm looking for the chaplain." Got funny looks when I said that's me.
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CPT Robert Boshears
Saw a Navy Chaplain (06 Captain) with a CIB. When he said “Attention to the morning prayer”, you listened.
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I have never felt looked down upon by those who served in combat, simply because I didn't. It has been my experience that we all know that we worked as a team for a common goal. But there are times that combat vets are awarded more defference because of what they have gone through. And that is right and proper. They experienced things I never will and I respect them highly for it.
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SGT Dannie T. McLaughlin
That's what we Cav Scouts would say back in 1991, But we wanted a CCB cross sabers!
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