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Female veterans are having problems getting the services they need from the V.A. in part because of their gender. Most V.A. programs are set up for men due to the V.A. originally being set up to support men. (Not pointing fingers here or being feminist) The increased number of female veterans has led the V.A. to begin to seek medical services and to open support groups specifically geared toward women. I have heard from male counter parts stories of having great difficulty in applying and receiving help from the V.A.. Some women say it is more difficult for women, because they are not recognized as being veterans in the firs place. The V.A. is trying to respond to these needs but funding is always an issue and the items that are going to get funded first are those that help the greatest majority of veterans, thus creating a vicious circle because women are in the minority. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/opinion/sunday/the-vas-woman-problem.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0
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PO1 Sojourner "Chancy" Phillips
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I don't think being male or female matters.  The VA is a mess across the board.  It seems to be more dependent on whether or not you live in a an area that has well ran VA hospitals or clinics.  The worse the management the worse the facility.
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SSG Trevor S.
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I say no because women have their own clinics in many VA locations that men don't have access to, since women can use every resource men have this acutally gives them more resources to exploit.
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SSG Trevor S.
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PFC (Join to see) see the full definition of exploit, as shown earlier. *(and referenced) Build your vocabulary before being indignant.
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if anyone was being indignant as you so nicely put it Ssg Smith, is you! and your little side kick brown noser Sfc Smith Jr that agreed with you. you have no clue what we women have been thru during our time of service and now as veterans trying to get some sort of medical treatment you are trying to back track what you said about women exploiting the VA b y trying to say that you meant it in the way of the defininition that you posted later after you had been called out.

so nice try. again, who's being indignant? certainly not me! good night be blessed because I am done with you and your brown noser! :)
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SGT Amanda Cray
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That is not true for where I live
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I will admit DC VAMC is not perfect. Far from it. I can't seem to ever get anyone on the phone. I will say when I've messaged my Dr. she responds right away on My Health eVet. I walked in last week because I had an issue that couldn't wait and it took two hours to be seen but I got seen. I guess I am lucky.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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Sorry ... I'd have to see a whole lot more data on this to be convinced that this is really an issue.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad Agreed. I'm hoping to get some input here from females to see what their take on this is.
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Sgt Spencer Sikder
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A very good question by CPT M C., for many years, VA didn't have much in place for women veterans, but then again not many women went to VA either. While there were some specialized medical supplies for example, there was a time that women would wear the same male hospital gown. As recent as four or five years ago, some VA's didn't have or provide feminine hygiene products (thought to be a personal expense not a taxpayer expense) . Rooms were group rooms with as many as 4 beds in one room. Or even the primary care rooms didn't have exam tables with stirrups or curtains. Some years ago, VA began an aggressive construction program to designate some rooms female specific. As more females present to VA it seems the initial plans were once again short sighted and not enough rooms, so we're seeing construction for more female specific rooms. So I think it would be good the hear from our female veterans of their experience or expectation failures or successes. This will enable the rest of the Rally Point population to understand the plight of that segment of veterans when it comes time to represent them at the polls.
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SSgt Laurie Sayles
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Learning that few VA facilities have physicians that cater to women regarding OBGYN is public knowledge ... you can google and find it.
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
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I'd have to say that there are many services available to vets. It has come a long way from where it was 10 years ago, when it comes to many of the services provided, especially when it comes to female health concerns. Sometimes you have to really look for the programs you want, and you have to be willing to jump through the required hoops, to get to them. I taken advantage of the VA medical and educational programs. The problems I have seen are not all that gender specific. Services are not always easy to find. If the care you are looking for is not available at the clinic you are going to, the VA support network is usually there with outside healthcare providers, to take care of your needs. The problem with healthcare systems (not just the VA) is that they are slow and services are not always available to you. If you feel you need specific care for a problem, (in my experience) you just have to push for it and they will get you what you need.
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SGT Stacy Moody
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I work out here in California for the VA at the Santa Maria Clinic. We are an outpatient clinic therefore many specialty clinics are not offered here, but even at this little clinic, we have numerous avenues, groups and opportunities for Female Veterans. Being one myself, I work here and am also a patient here, I can do group PTSD/MST appointments, have one on one appts, whatever I choose and whatever works best for ME, not the VA. If this is an issue VA wide that our Female Veterans have less services. I completely disagree with the article written here, and I feel the author needs to check his/her sources better. What are your sources anyway? One disgruntled female Veteran? I am sorry I just cannot agree with you, if anything I feel the VA as a whole has gone out of their way to ensure good programs for ALL Veterans, but extra care to ensure services for women only are available. I was a Veteran before I was a VA Employee, and I will ALWAYS speak up for Veterans and go above and beyond to help my brothers and sisters in arms. So trust me if I felt there was any truth to this article Id be like where? Who? Give me names!! grrr!! This time, nope not happening.
Alcon, have a great and blessed day.
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SGT Stacy Moody
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never heard of it! im happy to join tho! Please send me some information :)
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SGT Stacy Moody
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Thank you very much Kelli! :)
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SSgt Laurie Sayles
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It varies from one facility to another; however we must give credit to the efforts of the VA to provide better services at all facilities for Women Vets
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SGT Stacy Moody
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Thank you SGT Chad King.....nice reason you provided there for why you voted me down, it doesn't make me look bad if that's what you were trying to do. You have a blessed day anyway. I forgive you :)
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TSgt David L.
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I haven't seen any numbers either way, but I guess if you are basing this on a female provider for a female patient, that makes sense. I might even go so far as the saying that male providers trained in female specific areas might be a short fall. Otherwise the VA is short on providers PERIOD. It's hard to get an apt within a month for everyone I know.
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TSgt David L.
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SGT Ronald Audas - Well sir, thanks for your service. I'm sad to hear you have so many issues. Hopefully the VA will get's its shit together and we can be seen and get proper care.
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My wife has had no problems hearing from the VA....course she has no issues.....but seems like in the last month shes been called like 10 times by female VA reps.
SGT Ronald Audas
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TSgt David L. - My old primary care physician ( she left to go to another Va position) was like family. She warned me about these VA issues about 3 years ago.My wife insisted I take out supplimental Ins.,So I`m better off than most veterans. I still live by the old adage that it is what you make it.Not the new adage that it is what it is.That`s a lay down philosophy as far as I`m concerned.Thank you for your service.
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TSgt David L.
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TSgt David L. - SSG Gene Carroll SR. Anyone know why I got voted down for my comment? Oh well.
SSG Carroll I would be happy to discuss what's bothering you off line. Shoot me a PM if you care to do so...
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Sgt Spencer Sikder
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Not sure how to answer the question. There are pockets within the system that there is very little problems. Then there appears to be other facilities that have horrid stories. My WM wife has been able to get all that she needs and in a relatively timely manner. Many years ago, our facility as many if not all facilities put a Women's clinic into the Primary Care structure. As the population grew, women were then reassigned to the general population. The challenges for VA was dealing with obstetrics. Not all facilities had plans in place to follow a woman who was child bearing. At our facility my staff was tasked with obtaining an obstetrics instrument tray. Not an easy request as there isn't just one surgical tray. There are many. And since we didn't have the capacity to deliver a child, why would we invest in the multiple trays? So typically a female veteran who is pregnant is "fee'd" out, meaning allowed to seek her care in the private sector and VA pays the bill. If I recall correctly, pays until about 1 month after the birth (the first well baby care visit). VA doesn't assume the responsibility of the child after birth. But don't quote me on this.
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SGM Robin Johnson
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Sgt Sikder, thanks for all your thoughtful and reasoned responses to others about this question from the perspective of a VA staff member as well as veteran. And now I see you are also the husband of a veteran - way to triple up on the serving! As a fellow vet who has served in the Army medical field, was at one time married to a Soldier, and once was a DA Civilian at an Army hospital, I appreciate your position as someone with a foot in each world and a hand in each of another - like Twister! Helping to shed light on the 'backstage' of VA hospital activities to explain it for your fellow vets is a great service - thank you so much. And your well-spoken and measured comments show that your support for your sisters-in-arms goes beyond just your wife - than you even more for that! Semper fi indeed!
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Sgt Spencer Sikder
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SGM Robin Johnson, such an eloquent response, THANK YOU! Very well written!
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Cpl Arwen Bernard
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I had problems until I got my Senator involved. Once I did that boom everything fell into place. Before that it was like pulling teeth to get anything done or to get seen.
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Cpl Arwen Bernard I'm glad you were able to get the help you needed I'm sorry it was so difficult for you.
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Cpl Arwen Bernard
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I got the help I needed thank you.
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I think it depends on your geographic area. When I lived in Illinois and accessed care through the West Site VA Medical Center, it was horrible. I switch my primary care to Middleton VA Hospital in Madison WI with a primary care clinic just 30 mins from me and all was good. They didn't have a women's clinic then but I got good care nonetheless. Now that I live in the Metro DC area, I use the DC VA Hospital. They have a Women's Clinic and it's wonderful. I love it.
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PO2 Mark Saffell
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one look at me and you can tell I have never walked in those shoes so us males really cant answer truthfully, However I sure hope its not true.
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MSG Judith Schiavone Ramirez (Bemis)
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If you are not receiving the care that you need, demand to see the Women Veteran's Program Manager. I'm a member of the Women's Healthcare Committee at my facility in Massachusetts, and the push for better treatment of female Vets has pretty much guaranteed that myself and fellow female Vets get faster, better treatment than male Vets. That's not universal and I understand that, and depending on the female vet population you may not have onsite access to mammograms, etc. You can also demand a female PC and if none are available they have to send you offsite. Ensure your provider knows if you have MST and related issues to justify that.
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MSG Judith Schiavone Ramirez (Bemis) Thank you for sharing your insight.
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PO3 Helen Hill
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I feel that women Vets do have a bit of a harder time getting the proper care at a VA Medical facility because many of the facilities are not fully or properly equipped to give the kind of medical services for our female Veterans. When I was living in North Carolina I was going to the local VA Hospital and needed surgery and since the VA I was going to did not have the surgeon there that was needed to do the kind of surgery that I needed, I had to travel over 100 miles to a facility that had the kind of doctor I needed. Many of the VA's do not have OB/GYN doctors and the women have to travel great distance or be outsourced to a civilian facility to get the type of care they need.
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Sgt Spencer Sikder
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The same could be said of many if not all VA facilities across the country. I think about those in places like Texas, Montana, Wyoming, etc. where it's hundreds of miles to a clinic, let alone a hospital. The ability to outsource has been in VA authority for many years, it's only now with the choice card do we see more public opinion about it. However, under the existing "Fee Basis" process, it was up to the veteran to arrange the civilian care in most cases. And for some, many providers were not interested in doing VA cases. This lead to dissatisfaction as well. Here in central NC for example, if we needed dermatology care, it was either Raleigh (some 90 miles) or Pine Hurst (56 miles), because you weren't getting it from Fayetteville. Lately, they did have some dermatology services at the facility. Not sure if they still do.
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