Posted on Nov 23, 2015
Do you agree that Blaming Islam For Paris Attacks Is Both Immoral and Bad Strategy?
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Do agree that Blaming Islam For Paris Attacks Is Both Immoral and Bad Strategy?
The outpouring of anti-Islamic and anti-refugee sentiment is a gift for Islamic extremist recruitment.
RP Members do you agree or disagree with the author on this one? I still have my reservations about the refugee situation here in the United States! Your thoughts?
http://taskandpurpose.com/blaming-islam-for-paris-attacks-is-both-immoral-and-bad-strategy/
On Nov. 13, three separate attacks in Paris shocked us. Without a doubt, the attacks in Paris were hideous. The perpetrators, planners, and supporters of these acts deserve nothing less than death. Following the attacks social media erupted with sympathy for the victims, but also vitriol and rage. Much outrage was, and continues, to be directed at the Islamic faith as a whole and specifically at the Syrian refugee population. These angry sentiments are counterproductive to an effective response. Anger is understandable, but not toward an entire religion or refugee population.
In any group there is a broad range of beliefs. Members of the Islamic faith are the same. It is a massive community with a wide spectrum of viewpoints. Some members of the Islamic faith are the enemies of the West, nothing less. Yet, others are not. Some of those could be enemies, but are not yet. Portions subscribe to versions of Islam that perpetuate and support terrorism, and other barbaric acts. There are some members of the Islamic faith who choose to be enemies of the West, while others are not; their choice of opposition is political. As politics shift, so do our future enemies and allies.
The outpouring of anti-Islamic and anti-refugee sentiment is a gift for Islamic extremist recruitment.
RP Members do you agree or disagree with the author on this one? I still have my reservations about the refugee situation here in the United States! Your thoughts?
http://taskandpurpose.com/blaming-islam-for-paris-attacks-is-both-immoral-and-bad-strategy/
On Nov. 13, three separate attacks in Paris shocked us. Without a doubt, the attacks in Paris were hideous. The perpetrators, planners, and supporters of these acts deserve nothing less than death. Following the attacks social media erupted with sympathy for the victims, but also vitriol and rage. Much outrage was, and continues, to be directed at the Islamic faith as a whole and specifically at the Syrian refugee population. These angry sentiments are counterproductive to an effective response. Anger is understandable, but not toward an entire religion or refugee population.
In any group there is a broad range of beliefs. Members of the Islamic faith are the same. It is a massive community with a wide spectrum of viewpoints. Some members of the Islamic faith are the enemies of the West, nothing less. Yet, others are not. Some of those could be enemies, but are not yet. Portions subscribe to versions of Islam that perpetuate and support terrorism, and other barbaric acts. There are some members of the Islamic faith who choose to be enemies of the West, while others are not; their choice of opposition is political. As politics shift, so do our future enemies and allies.
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It all depends upon individual actions. But to make a generalization that an entire group is all good or all bad is incorrect.
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Every way which talk about God must be intolerant to violence that is really cancer. We know that cancer must be cured quickly with respect to body. Cultures must be mature to understand what is forbidden (Abel vs Kain.. first sin between people who seek God) . We want find Islam again like oasis of peace and equality like is effort many ways which believe in True Love. Violence is degradation of islam and same mistake like christianity did it in middle ages.
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I do not see this as a singular event - however non-secular reform is needed to rid the religion of Islam of extremist ideologies. As well the there is the issue of sectarian violence that needs to be addressed from within. As the Judeo-Christian West has had a challenging relationship with the Muslim community an emphasis needs to be placed on stronger efforts towards a mutual understanding when it comes to Islam and the region's world view. However I honestly doubt that such reforms will come about by any peaceful resolution. Much more along the lines of the reformations in 1924 as a result of the defeat of the Ottoman Empire.
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I don't know of anyone who is blaming "Islam" for terrorist actions. This is a Straw-man argument held up by peace activists, our enemies, and the Media in an effort to stop discussion and action against about our real enemy "Islamic Terrorism" in its many and varied forms (IS, ISIL, ISIS, Daesh, Al Qaeda, radicalized nut jobs, etc)..
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I would certainly blame those who adhere to wahhabi Islam COL Mikel J. Burroughs for the attacks in Paris and the recent assault n the hotel in Mali by al Qaeda.
France has been accepting refugees from Algeria. Since at least the 1960's, Mali and other former french colonies.
Once Islam reaches 10% of the population problems become serious. Pushes or sharia courts or "civil cases" are one of the initial steps. France's Islam population passed 10% many years ago. Since for Islam to be fulfilled the government must adhere to Islam principal of government and justice.
Once Muslims began to cooperate with the civil government and help both ind terrorists and work to stop people from becoming terrorists including policing the teaching in the mosques then the followers of mohammed should expect relief from blame.
France has been accepting refugees from Algeria. Since at least the 1960's, Mali and other former french colonies.
Once Islam reaches 10% of the population problems become serious. Pushes or sharia courts or "civil cases" are one of the initial steps. France's Islam population passed 10% many years ago. Since for Islam to be fulfilled the government must adhere to Islam principal of government and justice.
Once Muslims began to cooperate with the civil government and help both ind terrorists and work to stop people from becoming terrorists including policing the teaching in the mosques then the followers of mohammed should expect relief from blame.
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There is no simple answer to this question, it is yes and no. Some quick thoughts.
This is a well written article and it touches on many things I have comments on in discussions on the topic. This is a complex multilayered challenge. Terror is a weapon, a tactic, the monster under the bed, the thing that keeps you awake at night, perhaps, with cold sweats worrying. Terror and violence are tools. It is the ideology underlying them that must be addressed. We seem to be unwilling to actually put a name to the ideology. How do you fight a thing you will not name. How do prepare successfully, tactically, operationally and strategically, if you are focused on the tool, and not the weirder of the tool or the shaper of the desire to use the tool? You cannot. We must remember we view law differently in the west. Our interpretations do not always translate well, nor do theirs.
The author is correct, Islam is not monolithic. it is complex and subtle, it has many aspects and some are in direct opposition to each other. Islam and sharia are intertwined. To me, (in very broad strokes) It is reminiscent of the West before the Protestant Reformation, when Church Law was viewed as superior to secular law. The Western world eventfully changed, spreading spiritual,law and secular law into two distinct realms. However, that change only came after years of costly intermittent wars, finally ending in the 17th Century.
I submit it is less about Islam, and more about the different practitioners and interpreters of that faith. However the Faith is part of the equation.
No we should not condem whole cloth, yet it is a tendency we see in the West at every turn, - some one gets shot, condem the gun owners; someone gets drunk, condem the drinkers, etc... It seems to be easier to condem in broad strokes, rather than spend the time understanding the issue and seeking the cause and the source. Then again, in so doing we may be forced to make a choice and take a stand.
This is a well written article and it touches on many things I have comments on in discussions on the topic. This is a complex multilayered challenge. Terror is a weapon, a tactic, the monster under the bed, the thing that keeps you awake at night, perhaps, with cold sweats worrying. Terror and violence are tools. It is the ideology underlying them that must be addressed. We seem to be unwilling to actually put a name to the ideology. How do you fight a thing you will not name. How do prepare successfully, tactically, operationally and strategically, if you are focused on the tool, and not the weirder of the tool or the shaper of the desire to use the tool? You cannot. We must remember we view law differently in the west. Our interpretations do not always translate well, nor do theirs.
The author is correct, Islam is not monolithic. it is complex and subtle, it has many aspects and some are in direct opposition to each other. Islam and sharia are intertwined. To me, (in very broad strokes) It is reminiscent of the West before the Protestant Reformation, when Church Law was viewed as superior to secular law. The Western world eventfully changed, spreading spiritual,law and secular law into two distinct realms. However, that change only came after years of costly intermittent wars, finally ending in the 17th Century.
I submit it is less about Islam, and more about the different practitioners and interpreters of that faith. However the Faith is part of the equation.
No we should not condem whole cloth, yet it is a tendency we see in the West at every turn, - some one gets shot, condem the gun owners; someone gets drunk, condem the drinkers, etc... It seems to be easier to condem in broad strokes, rather than spend the time understanding the issue and seeking the cause and the source. Then again, in so doing we may be forced to make a choice and take a stand.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
MAJ Alvin B. Well stated. I truly believe that our population in this country is quick to judge and really doesn't understand all of the issues involved. Unfortunately, our Government reacts in the very same fashion sometimes. It's human nature! Your last paragraph needs to be read by all in government and understood by the masses! Thanks for contributing to these discussions in a very articulated fashion!
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All of any group almost never happens. On the other hand a few of any group are often responsible for all of that group being labeled and blamed.
That said I fully believe that all of ISIS (or ISIL or any other name you call that group} are evil and need to be dealt with.
That said I fully believe that all of ISIS (or ISIL or any other name you call that group} are evil and need to be dealt with.
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