Posted on May 18, 2016
Do you agree with the religious leaders who are professing that we are headed to WWIII (fulfilling a biblical prophesy)?
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Brother, they were doing the same thing at the snake kissing church I went to when I was a kid. Revelations is so far out there that it can be interpreted that the "end of the world is coming" since written history. If you are a believer that the bible is literal (I don't), you are going to be spending every waking moment getting ready for the next coming of Christ every second of the day.
My suggestion is get right with God and then live you life. If you wait for the "what if" you are going to miss out on living. Not how I am going to spend my days.
My suggestion is get right with God and then live you life. If you wait for the "what if" you are going to miss out on living. Not how I am going to spend my days.
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Great advice, I try to live every day for the gift that it is, I should have died several times already... Thanks brother SGT William Howell
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LTC (Join to see) God looks after fools and drunks! He has a full time job with me!
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The problem with the Bible firstly - is that you have to read it correctly. The young man asks Jesus what he must do to follow him. Jesus tells him and the man responds "let me bury my father first." Jesus says "no, let the dead bury the dead." Now, if you don't know that "let the dead bury the dead" is a Jewish saying meaning "let me take care of the final harvest, do any repairs on my dad's house, take care of him before I leave" then you're going to be confused. Revelation is not confusing. If so, then you're not reading it correctly.
"But Don, it was written in code to keep the Romans from destroying it."
Really? How come God can protect the other 65 books of the Bible, but not The Revelation? There is no code. The word "fire" means the same in Rev as it does everywhere else in the Bible. God also has strict rules on prophecy and prophets. In order to be a prophet you have to be 100% correct. If not, then you are not a prophet by Biblical standards. So when religion X states that "Jesus is coming on the 6th of August, 1997" and he **DOESN'T** come, then that religion can no longer be listened to, trusted.
There are several prophecies that must be fulfilled before the second coming of Christ. They are all pretty much laid out in The Revelation. The one most military folk will gravitate towards is the resurgance/emergence of a re-united/stronger Germany and pacts made towards its influences with and regarding to Israel. The "Ten Kings" are nations that play heavily into "final battle" scenarios and they are rumored to be Northern European nations. Having an English wife, I (we) have English news running through the house and those of you so inclined may notice an English "Tea Party" style movement wanting to remove England (UK) from the European Union. Germany (as head banker of the EU) is moving towards that as well. Germany wishes for the EU to be split in to two EU's with a Northern EU having ten member nations (there's your "ten kings") and a Southern EU having ten member nations.
Notice that the Holy Roman Empire figures heavily in to The Revelation as well. The EU was (still is) heavily involved with having The Holy See (Vatican) "proof-reading" the still un-ratified EU constitution. Should a national religion for the EU be agreed upon (with the Pope 'conveniently' as it's new head) then that's a fistful of Biblical prophecies fulfilled in one afternoon. The gist of the two EU's is financial. The Northern one will pay less/earn more and it will be like a European soccer league where a nation not taking care of its finances (Greece, Ireland or Portugal) will be "demoted" to the Southern EU. The nations in the Southern EU will still be EU members getting benefits, but less benefits, giving them something to shoot for.
Once this gets ratified/approved, you'll have a ton of Biblical prophecies coming true. Germany has ratified its constitution to enable "combat" in places outside Europe and German forces have blooded themselves accordingly. With the EU's finances and a common goal (the soon to be purging of Muslims from Europe) there might be an acceleration of "armagedon" showing up. Seek out any books by Pastor Tim LaHay. Tim does not preach. Tim takes Biblical prophecies and translates them to your language and shows how they exist. For example, later in The Revelation, God sends two messengers to earth that stir up hatred and they are killed "and everyone throughout the nations can see their dead bodies." Now if you read that passage in 1981, you'd laugh out loud as that is impossible. But once CNN comes online, its now possible for "everyone throughout the nations" to see an event.
But your first step is going to be to get a modern translation Bible that contains background information. "The Student Bible - New International Version" is my recommendation. Its easy reading and interrupts you frequently with insights and historical backgrounds. Its like several books in one.
"But Don, it was written in code to keep the Romans from destroying it."
Really? How come God can protect the other 65 books of the Bible, but not The Revelation? There is no code. The word "fire" means the same in Rev as it does everywhere else in the Bible. God also has strict rules on prophecy and prophets. In order to be a prophet you have to be 100% correct. If not, then you are not a prophet by Biblical standards. So when religion X states that "Jesus is coming on the 6th of August, 1997" and he **DOESN'T** come, then that religion can no longer be listened to, trusted.
There are several prophecies that must be fulfilled before the second coming of Christ. They are all pretty much laid out in The Revelation. The one most military folk will gravitate towards is the resurgance/emergence of a re-united/stronger Germany and pacts made towards its influences with and regarding to Israel. The "Ten Kings" are nations that play heavily into "final battle" scenarios and they are rumored to be Northern European nations. Having an English wife, I (we) have English news running through the house and those of you so inclined may notice an English "Tea Party" style movement wanting to remove England (UK) from the European Union. Germany (as head banker of the EU) is moving towards that as well. Germany wishes for the EU to be split in to two EU's with a Northern EU having ten member nations (there's your "ten kings") and a Southern EU having ten member nations.
Notice that the Holy Roman Empire figures heavily in to The Revelation as well. The EU was (still is) heavily involved with having The Holy See (Vatican) "proof-reading" the still un-ratified EU constitution. Should a national religion for the EU be agreed upon (with the Pope 'conveniently' as it's new head) then that's a fistful of Biblical prophecies fulfilled in one afternoon. The gist of the two EU's is financial. The Northern one will pay less/earn more and it will be like a European soccer league where a nation not taking care of its finances (Greece, Ireland or Portugal) will be "demoted" to the Southern EU. The nations in the Southern EU will still be EU members getting benefits, but less benefits, giving them something to shoot for.
Once this gets ratified/approved, you'll have a ton of Biblical prophecies coming true. Germany has ratified its constitution to enable "combat" in places outside Europe and German forces have blooded themselves accordingly. With the EU's finances and a common goal (the soon to be purging of Muslims from Europe) there might be an acceleration of "armagedon" showing up. Seek out any books by Pastor Tim LaHay. Tim does not preach. Tim takes Biblical prophecies and translates them to your language and shows how they exist. For example, later in The Revelation, God sends two messengers to earth that stir up hatred and they are killed "and everyone throughout the nations can see their dead bodies." Now if you read that passage in 1981, you'd laugh out loud as that is impossible. But once CNN comes online, its now possible for "everyone throughout the nations" to see an event.
But your first step is going to be to get a modern translation Bible that contains background information. "The Student Bible - New International Version" is my recommendation. Its easy reading and interrupts you frequently with insights and historical backgrounds. Its like several books in one.
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PO3 Donald Murphy you make some good points, specifically with various translations of the bible.
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I think we are confusing TV rhetoric with reality. The level of death, wars and conflict is at the lowest levels in human history. You just happen to see more on TV because "if it bleeds, it leads."
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F no! That's rediculous for them to think that. ... They do have their own way of thinking though so it doesn't surprise me...
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that at some point in the future another world war will happen. Even before we had true "World Wars" we had wars that encompassed most of the known world, from the Mongol invasions of China and Europe to the Barbarian invasions of Rome. Forecasting that the world will one day be at war again is a lot like forecasting that one day it will rain again. Decades ago it was going to be the USSR vs. the US, and hundreds if not thousands of books were written on the subject.
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I think we are already there with states like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, US, Libya, Syria, Taliban, ISIS, Turks, Kurd participating.
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Am I missing something here? Is there an article associated with this post or are we simply responding the the "question"? I've seen cartoons of "crazies" standing on street corners wearing sandwich boards or carrying signs proclaiming "The End is Near". It's usually the punch line of a joke. However, I haven't seen anything in the news since the grossly inaccurate stories about the Mayan Calendar.
Are we headed for WWIII? Well, it's pretty clear that WWII is in the past and if another WW comes it will be "III". I suppose if anything piques my curiosity, I wonder if we'll call the one after that "WWIV" or "WWIIII". (Did you know that "IV" wasn't used in ancient Rome? It was "IIII". "IV" didn't come into use until very late in the 19th Century. So, if someone tries to tell you that an antique clock was built prior to the late 19th Century and it has "IV" for "4", it's a con job.)
Are we headed for WWIII? Well, it's pretty clear that WWII is in the past and if another WW comes it will be "III". I suppose if anything piques my curiosity, I wonder if we'll call the one after that "WWIV" or "WWIIII". (Did you know that "IV" wasn't used in ancient Rome? It was "IIII". "IV" didn't come into use until very late in the 19th Century. So, if someone tries to tell you that an antique clock was built prior to the late 19th Century and it has "IV" for "4", it's a con job.)
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That the situaciĂłn will Grt progressively worst it's a prophetic. The Bible does not predict a WWIII specifically, although we may call it that. The point of scripture is to demonstrate the decay of the human race in contrast to the salvific power of the gospel. In fact if you read Matthew 24:14 you will realize that the end is connected to the finishing of the preaching of the gospel and not wars or political turmoil. I hope this helps Sir.
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LTC (Join to see) - The horrors we see in parts of Africa and much of the Middle East, were once the norm everywhere. I agree we have some serious issues here at home with corruption and greed, however I'd still take that in a heartbeat over the problems we were struggling with a hundred years ago... child labor, the KKK at the height of it's power, women unable to vote, millions of Americans in extreme poverty, especially the sick and the elderly.
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SSG (Join to see) - all valid points, I am more thinking about the changes I've seen in my life time.
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LTC (Join to see) - You childhood must have been a lot different from mine, I remember the KKK being a powerful political force, kids who were gay being brutalized in school. A lot of things have gotten better, and a lot of things have gotten worse. Exactly how those things balance out in the end is really hard to determine... however I'm inclined to believe that things are slowly improving, even if it is at a snails pace.
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I grew up (a catholic) in a (baptist dominated) tiny town in Texas, I learned first hand (on the receiving end) about the klan and their ideologies. Once you get beyond the hateful minority, I found that most of the local were good people.
Perhaps the world at large has always been a cesspool and it has taken the global media and information sharing to highlight it.
Perhaps the world at large has always been a cesspool and it has taken the global media and information sharing to highlight it.
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MSG (Join to see) Unfortunately I get the information second or third hand. I am not one to follow such. Some of what I read in open source and other sources make me wonder, is it really coming? I am not a biblical scholar, I'm doing good to spell bible on most days.
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Traditionally, the Church considers Revelation to be authored by the Apostle John, also known as John of Patmos...one of the original twelve disciples of Christ. While other scholars cite style and prose differences indicating a later follower, such as John the Elder, it is generally accepted that he was exiled to Patmos for his beliefs.
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