Do you believe it is ok for active service members to degrade the POTUS on RP?

Wow; that was a problem we didn't have to grapple with when I was active. There weren't internet's or sites; computers were just getting into the key punch stage ( "do not fold, spindle or mutilate"cards everywhere) and rarely, if ever, "talked" to each other. But disparaging the CIC in speech or writing that was public was forbidden. I would think it would still be, regardless the medium. That was 1 of the things we agreed to forego while on active. As veterans, we aren't governed by the UCMJ any longer, but some decorum should still be exercised, IMO. Criticism is okay, " bad mouthing" not so much.

What if the president degrades himself and opens the doors to ridicule?
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Against a POTUS who engaged in election fraud and who was not constitutionally qualified and bypassed the vetting process? Was never legit and not my President as evidenced by his acts of Treason.

Trump (as much as I don’t care for his inflated ego) was qualified, ran a brilliant campaign and despite all who opposed him (including the Progressive Propagandist lamestream media), managed a victory against an opponent who cheated in the debates and rigged her own Primary. Love him or hate him, he was duly elected and has made good on his campaign promises!

No

In the case of Obama, who was elected with the aid of election fraud, I believe he is fair game for those not serving in an active or reserve capacity. As much as it pains me to say that, our system is broken. We have States like CA willfully violating the Constitution, giving sanctuary to illegal aliens, free medical benefits they didn’t earn, and allowing them to vote in national elections. Our Founding Fathers would be aghast if they could see what has become of their experiment in a Democracy. Obama has issues with his eligibility, the Democrats knew it and ran him anyway. Hell, I don’t know where he was born... Even his family can’t agree on it... and that is a problem.

The identity of our Commander in Chief must be rock solid. Chief Justice John Jay urged George Washington to include the requirement of natural born citizen for President because he wanted to ensure that in the court of Natural Law nobody could challenge the loyalty and allegiance of our President and Commander in Chief or lay claim to his citizenship. He didn’t want our elections to be compromised with candidates whose allegiance was questionable and whose loyalties lay elsewhere.

Our President should have a past that can be verified so that his loyalty and allegiance can be assessed. The test of natural born citizenship is one that guarantees nobody can lay claim to the citizenship of our President or question his loyalty and allegiance to this country. To be a citizen one must inherit the citizenship of their parents or be born on the soil of the country. Jus Sanguini or Jus Solis which translate to Right of Blood and Right of Soil). Either of these is enough to satisfy the requirement of citizenship but to meet the higher test of citizenship that guarantees the loyalty and allegiance of the citizen, one must meet both and the test of natural born citizen does just that. A natural born citizen meets both requirements of citizenship: they are born on the soil of the country that both parents are citizens of. In this manner their loyalty and allegiance can’t be challenged in any court of law.

We now see the consequence of what happens when you allow political correctness to trump common sense and elect an individual whose loyalty and allegiance can’t be verified. We presently have an all out war going on over who controls this country and the Democrats have unmasked themselves as Socialists trying to disarm Americans and give away our national sovereignty in order to foist Progressive Socialism and Globalism on America. Our nation suffered the consequence of voter apathy and ignorance. Obama was a usurping fraud whose past is enshrouded in mystery. He vetted himself four years after the fact with computer generated forged documents! And people dismiss it as if it is unimportant what the character of the man in office is and I am telling you it is damn important that we know who the hell we are voting for.

I am retired but I STILL honor the oath I swore to protect and defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC! When I told the truth about Obama, I was put down, downvoted and called unprofessional by a midshipman cadet admin! I served before he was born and could have changed his diaper and wiped the boogers from his nose. This new generation has some of the brightest people in the history of this nation and some of the most ignorant, whiny little crybabies that were indoctrinated with Progressivism in their educations. People in this country have no appreciation for the lessons of history. They aren’t interested in hearing the truth when it is inconvenient and conflicts with what they want to believe. I remember a time when people had thicker skin and dealt with adversity. They weren’t diagnosed with PTSD (and that is not to say it isn’t real but I feel wayyy too many people are using it as a crutch and receiving compensation that probably don’t deserve it); they were told to wipe the tears from their eyes and act like men.

It’s time we acknowledge the truth and admit we as a nation screwed up by electing people of dubious character to represent us and we sat on our hands and allowed corruption to work its way through our government into all three branches. And we are now dealing with the consequence of our apathy and ignorance and we have a swamp to drain.

"Safe Spaces" are not but any definition "completely safe"
There is always a consequence to any action

For Veterans such as myself, we may have "earned certain rights and abilities " but (for me) that s till doe s not include the right to openly disparage any President (current or former)

Although I have extremely disliked some former Presidents, I never publicly did so.

Others are correct in the case of Social Media being "a new battleground ", but I constantly remind people that all of us are "the Face of the US Military "

It seems to me that the very same people that thought Obama is God, Want to make out the Trump hate's every one that is not rich and white.
The dubble standerd is always there.
You have the right to like or dislike whoever to the President, But you should not talk about it at work.
Keep it on your own time.
Because the sad fact is people can not seem to agree to disagree, And someone always gets BUTT HURT.
Insted of listining and talking with out being stupid.

I don't think it is right for ANYONE to degrade ANYONE on RP.

Attack opinions, not people.

There is a huge margin between "The President is dumb and doesn't think through his decisions" and "The idea to build a coast-to-coast wall is dumb and was not well thought out."

Of course... There are many who think that an attack on a person's idea is an attack on the person, but that is THEIR problem.

But yeah, to answer the question, no attacking the Pres is not OK. It MAY have legal implications, but "right" (in the "good/bad" definition, not in the "freedom" definition) and "legal" are often two VERY different things.

A disparaging remark by a service member against POTUS or indeed their chain of command is not a violation of the UCMJ. Not even close. Members always have their 1st amendment rights, they never lose them but there are responsibilities as well as consequences to having that right. As long as the service member does not become politically active, they can say just about whatever they want to about POTUS or any candidate.

I believe actively serving members should use care of their speech about Political topics. However those who are Vets or retired should permitted free excercise of 1st Amendment Speach Rights.