Posted on Mar 16, 2015
Do you believe that MOS skills have atrophied or become convoluted?
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This is not a critique on generational differences in a us versus them sort of way. Instead, this is a question of rather training focus has been negatively affected by environmental distractions.
What comes to mind when someone states their MOS?
Has a serious of wars following Desert Storm convoluted the specialization of MOS?
Does misapplication of technology hamper training?
Has lack of adherence to SOP disabled NCOs and Officers from planning and executing consistent and efficient training?
Has all of this degraded the skills that define an MOS?
Active duty has an abundance of time but the Reserve Component has much less. Whats more important the EO classes or basic skills?
When I think MOS capabilities
11B ruck march, rifle ranges and highly effective maneuver.
12B emplace or reduce an obstacle while keeping up with 11B
13F fire support while keeping up with 11B.
19K recon and intel collection while staying forward of 11Bs.
The Alpha (Officers) capable of doing the same. I am not daming any unit but I am asking in general are we specialized or generalized?
What comes to mind when someone states their MOS?
Has a serious of wars following Desert Storm convoluted the specialization of MOS?
Does misapplication of technology hamper training?
Has lack of adherence to SOP disabled NCOs and Officers from planning and executing consistent and efficient training?
Has all of this degraded the skills that define an MOS?
Active duty has an abundance of time but the Reserve Component has much less. Whats more important the EO classes or basic skills?
When I think MOS capabilities
11B ruck march, rifle ranges and highly effective maneuver.
12B emplace or reduce an obstacle while keeping up with 11B
13F fire support while keeping up with 11B.
19K recon and intel collection while staying forward of 11Bs.
The Alpha (Officers) capable of doing the same. I am not daming any unit but I am asking in general are we specialized or generalized?
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Some specialized CMFs/MOSs will be under utilized depending on the operational environment, others will be over utilized or utilized outside their CMF/MOS i.e. Field Artillery, Armor, Cavalry, Military Police, etc. "owning" battle space and conducting Infantry type operations within that area.
I believe that some CMF/MOS skills do degrade because of the above but can be "shored" up through the three training domains once operations have ended. Commanders are responsible for training and must ensure that all CMFs/MOSs under their command receive the training required to accomplish the mission and remain proficient. If you follow the principles of training outlined in ADP 7-0 regardless of type of unit you should be successful.
I believe that some CMF/MOS skills do degrade because of the above but can be "shored" up through the three training domains once operations have ended. Commanders are responsible for training and must ensure that all CMFs/MOSs under their command receive the training required to accomplish the mission and remain proficient. If you follow the principles of training outlined in ADP 7-0 regardless of type of unit you should be successful.
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CSM (Join to see) I like how you frame the problem. Leaders may not cause the problem but they sure are responsible for fixing it.
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As a CBRN soldier I have had to deal with this problem for many years. In fact, the last time I saw the training taken seriously was when I was active duty with a heavy construction unit during the Cold War. When we went on a FTX, I was part of advance party. My chemical recon teams would conduct a site survey, I would deploy the chemical agent alarm systems, and you can bet that at least once during the exercise there would be a chemical or even nuclear event.
I have not been active for the last 9 years, so I have no reference point, but I have an exceptionally hard time convincing the leadership to include CBRN during any sort of AT. Part of the reason is I have always been with training or training support units, and our mission has that support focus. But, other then annual or bi-annual 3 -4hour instructional blocks, the only MOS training I get is practicing notional attacks on my own while manning the TOC.
I have not been active for the last 9 years, so I have no reference point, but I have an exceptionally hard time convincing the leadership to include CBRN during any sort of AT. Part of the reason is I have always been with training or training support units, and our mission has that support focus. But, other then annual or bi-annual 3 -4hour instructional blocks, the only MOS training I get is practicing notional attacks on my own while manning the TOC.
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