Posted on Jun 10, 2023
MSG Lonnie Averkamp
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So, this is from the Daily Beast, and it infers that military veterans must be monitored. It brings up "the present and historical ties between American hate groups and armed servicemen and women....".

My own belief is that, because Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and mothers disagreeing with school boards tend to not vote the way that the staff of the Daily Beast would like, then they should be rounded up like the Gypsies and Jews in Germany in 1939 (too much of a threat to the New Order).

It seems that this article would classify George Washington as a "Radicalized Military Vet".

So, how do you see it?

Here is the full article:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/against-all-enemies-review-the-chilling-threat-of-radicalized-military-vets
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SSG Shawn Mcfadden
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They could be. If they follow idiots like trump. Look what took place during Jan 6.
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TSgt Lloyd Estes
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They may have some correct ideas and beliefs but the way they support and portray them is comparable to terrorist and criminals who support lawlessness.
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SSgt Heather Capra
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Disagree. Your beliefs are not mentioned in the Dailybeast article. You have created a narrative and falsely correlated it to this article that evidently hit a nerve with you.

George Washington was to many a terrible person. He was a traitor to his nation, he killed his own countrymen, he inflicted grotesque violence on his enemies, he committed/endorsed genocide against the native populations and harnessed resources gained from his own familial wealth and power to create a system he envisioned was best. So yes he was radicalized, progressive, liberal, non-conformist Veteran. It always amazes me that that some people equate our founders as traditionalist, conservative aka "republican party-like" when in reality they were not. And the nation he lead to create was an imperfect one to be sure as we his legacy have been working to improve upon it since. And that is where the difference lies between the American Veteran who stands to improve upon George Washington's mission and those that have become radicalized with the intent to create a downfall of our nation to create either a new one or independent city-states that are not under federal authority.

So no the Dailybeast gave no indication of rounding up Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics and mothers disagreeing with school boards as if they were to be as disposed as the Gypsies and the Jews were in Germany in 1939.

The article says....to paraphrase... we all need to be aware of the very real intent and actions of white nationalist hate groups targeting veterans who are brought in under the guise of protecting the nation, camaraderie, and similar good ideals to then be manipulated and used for the agendas that hurt our nation such as attacking our very own Capitol.
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LTC Lance Headrick
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Nice thought, but as a White, Christian, Conservative Veteran my actions need to be watched because of my race, creed and politics?

I am white and I believe in nationalist even isolationist ideas...so I am a White Nationalist? If it did not have the negative connotation (given by the left) I would submit to being called a White Christian Nationalist.

You referred to WWII and the National Socialist round ups...they started with articles in Newspaper's about how you had to watch Jews. How they had the potential to be greedy or whatever. The campaign started as early as the late 1920's.

So though Liberals do not directly espouse the "Superior Ideology" tag line to themselves it is pretty plain. As the US descends into Tribalism; Right versus Left. Dehumanization of the other side will play a huge part. Those dangerous/stupid/intolerant Christian White Nationalist. (in the article at the bottom replace Aryan with Liberal and Jew with White Christian) Yes, I have extrapolated this to the Nth degree, but logically and given current "Main Stream" media stories my point is not irrational.

With regard to George Washington and genocide? The Iroquoia? The American Revolution can also be called the Iroquoia Civil War. While I am not sure the Sullivan-Clinton Campaign was required (sometimes call the Sullivan-Clinton Genocide) You blithely overlook that half the tribes of the Iroquoia targeted had fought for the British during the Revolution (and there was no surrender) (Canada was British circa 1763).....therefore they were a threat (at least in the minds of the colonies affected). Maybe the Iroquoia (5 tribes?) would have reconciled and it would not have mattered....but to dismiss the nuance and say blithely the George Washington is a genocidal tyrant is intellectually dishonest.

https://digitalcommons.du.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2919&context=etd
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SGT Damaso V Santana
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I see it quite clearly, it is called fear which those who destroy from within suffer from. They know Veterans uphold the Oath, Veterans are not the "Useful Fools" or the brigades of indoctrinated bots.
These progressives will attack and vilify anyone who does not share their hateful ideology.
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SGT Damaso V Santana
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PV2 Larry Sellnow - Barking up the wrong tree, not a MAGA devotee, however you seem well versed, if so you must admit the hateful narrative seems to be a leftist/communist wanna be domain, I come from a country destroyed from within by same narrative our present day bastards seem to be using, as stated before, no Useful Fools here.
Trying to grow hate and divisiveness does not fly here.
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SGT Victor Negrete
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TO MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE FRINGE.
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SGT Walt Pozgay
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I think veterans represent a cross-section of the American population and therefore, are just as likely as the population to provide members of hate groups. Many of the vets I know are quite liberal and find these hate groups to be abhorrent and against the core beliefs of the military, regardless of branch. The Wannabees make the veteran community look bad.
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SP5 Keith Phillips
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I don't believe everything printed or online, common Sense goes a long way
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SP5 Edward Klee
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People fear what they dont understand.. not understanding creates anger and more fear.. Our lack of Confidence and lazyness is destroying everything ( do you grow perennias and biennial...trees, shrubs and plants that are medicinal or edible, in your hardiness zone? Are you studing anatomy, emotionalIntelligence,
philosophy, MindfulnessMeditation, Herbalismand Kung-fu or self defense, oror basic survival? ). And thats why were easily mislead by the liars..Evil Prospers, when good people do nothing...seems everyone is either too passive or too aggressive..We need accountability at our local representatives... And Vote out everyone who lies , steals manipulates or murder... or just cant say No...What people fail to see is that were searching to make adjustments to improve, not try and control and micro manage..or make it worse..
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SGT Mary G.
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I think all "radicalized" extremist people are a potential threat to themselves and everyone else.
However, precisely what "radicalized" is intended to mean in reference to veterans would certainly needs to be clearly explained. Simply because someone labels someone in that way, does not make it so. Active duty, Reserve, Guard, IRR - radicalized extremists? The unit would know about that and be handling it. Right?
"Radicalized" suggests it is something that was done to someone (e.g. persuaded/manipulated/"brain washed"/propagandized . . .) So exactly what was done and who is responsible for the radicalizing would be as much or more of a threat.
The article speaks of social media "fueling soldiers’ attraction to these groups". I am not convinced veterans are attracted to extremist groups BECAUSE they were soldiers who were influenced by social media. Few people are actually naive enough, or ignorant enough to NOT realize most social media is full of miscreants, foreign and domestic, with a divide and conquer mentality, who are trying to stir up trouble.
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SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales
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Yes because they express their support for an individual or an ideology far above their support for the Constitution which holds this country together. The Constitution was not created for one group only but for all. When that one group tries to dictate the narrative to benefit them, that's how autocracies are created. No one is going to round up all vets. We are all here to support them in their mental health the best way we can. And Washington fought to break away from the monarchy, it seems many nowadays want to emplace a 1 family rule again.
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