Posted on May 4, 2016
Do you believe that these West Point first classman are violating the UCMJ by making a political statement while in uniform?
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DOD directive 1344.10 states:
-A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:
4.1.1.3. Join a partisan or nonpartisan political club and attend its meetings when NOT in uniform, subject to the restrictions of subparagraph 4.1.2.4. (See DoD Instruction 1334.1 (Reference (c).)
From the article "Racism Within West Point"
http://www.inthearenafitness.com/index.php/racism-within-west-point
-A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:
4.1.1.3. Join a partisan or nonpartisan political club and attend its meetings when NOT in uniform, subject to the restrictions of subparagraph 4.1.2.4. (See DoD Instruction 1334.1 (Reference (c).)
From the article "Racism Within West Point"
http://www.inthearenafitness.com/index.php/racism-within-west-point
Edited 8 y ago
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 238
I don't know about violating the UCMJ but I do know if the cadets had been white it would have been looked at differently as a hate issue probably. The KKK uses this type of symbol. White or black it's not proper in any fashion while in uniform and of very bad taste even out of uniform. It just offends to many people. When I was in the Army we just looked at everyone as being green, not white, black, brown or any other color. I do believe the picture was of bad taste. As a former Equal Opportunity Representative in my last unit in the Army I would just say it should not have been posted in social media and there should be some kind of consequence. Maybe some additional EO training, not dismissal. I have to remember this is a new time and we now have a very different Army.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
Again attempting to defend bad behvior with other bad behavior is still wrong. So what I said stands.
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Some have stated "kids will be kids". They are not children, they are 1st classmen at West Point and will soon be commissioned officers in the US Army expected to lead soldiers and defend the nation. Let's not tap dance around, we all know what the raised fist means and we sure don't need radicalization in the military of ANY form. The US taxpayers have paid for them to have a hell of good education and they need to get their heads out of their collective 6 or resign asap. I don't know if it is a violation of the UCMJ but it sure doesn't show judgment and leadership.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
CPT L S - I'm quite Familiar with the Yellow Triangle, Pink Triangle, Star of David, I forget what the Symbol for the Gypsys was. Such a wonderful collection of Emblems they had for People in the Camps that were not part of the Majority. I ever tell you I call my Youngest Granddaughter my Tyrolean Gypsy Princess, She has Dark, Dark Eyes.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
Yes he was elected Chancellor. It wasn't until the Death of Hindenberg that the Presidency and the Chancellorship were merged to become the Fuhrer "Leader" and with the burning of Reichstag he was given unlimited powers.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
CPT L S - Ah Yes the White Rose Society, Hell of a way to get your head cut off with Piano Wire. On some of my Pages on other Social Media I used the White Rose as my Icon.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
CPT L S - Also I am rather Proud that I think I am the only Straight Member of the Rainbow Rose Society.
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It depends on intention. Was it intended to be a political statement for public consumption...then yes it is inappropriate. On the other hand it could also be a picture that was intended to be private for those participating...to not be published then i would say no.
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A fist in the air. Ok. It seems to be iso blm. Is it admitted or confirmed that this is their message? If so then yes. It is not acceptable in military uniform. If you disagree with the regs, then the military may not be your forte' in life. Laws are made by congress for the general public. Military regs are made for those contracted in uniform. Follow the rules Soldiers. From the most menial of tasks to the most complex. You are held to a different standard. A higher standard. Being an officer means you accept that charge. Lead from the front! Black, White, Asian, European, Brown etc... If you are a US Military officer, you are an American citizen and a SOLDIER!!! Lead from the front!!!
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It's as clear as black and white . Wake up up you and smell the arm pit.
UCMJ let the Jag's do the job. Black Woman want to put their asses on the line , Let them .
UCMJ let the Jag's do the job. Black Woman want to put their asses on the line , Let them .
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dunno dont care.. saw this video shared today and has similar hand language so if got confused with each other .. just sharing what saw earlier i didnt go looking for it
https://www.facebook.com/ModernRevolution/videos/ [login to see] 90543/
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Black Girl standing on US Flag as US Servicemen turn their back, literally, as it happens.Ladies and Gents, this is the poster child for stupidity....
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Not sure. I need more info in order to provide some context. After that I can give a better answer.
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These are not kids. These are adults making choices whether right or wrong. We can all have our opinions but if they fall under the sane jurisdiction as all DOD does then let them see what what military justice is about.
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Suck it up buttercup. You're in the Army. Everybody is racist in one form or another.
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