Posted on May 4, 2016
Do you believe that these West Point first classman are violating the UCMJ by making a political statement while in uniform?
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DOD directive 1344.10 states:
-A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:
4.1.1.3. Join a partisan or nonpartisan political club and attend its meetings when NOT in uniform, subject to the restrictions of subparagraph 4.1.2.4. (See DoD Instruction 1334.1 (Reference (c).)
From the article "Racism Within West Point"
http://www.inthearenafitness.com/index.php/racism-within-west-point
-A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:
4.1.1.3. Join a partisan or nonpartisan political club and attend its meetings when NOT in uniform, subject to the restrictions of subparagraph 4.1.2.4. (See DoD Instruction 1334.1 (Reference (c).)
From the article "Racism Within West Point"
http://www.inthearenafitness.com/index.php/racism-within-west-point
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Edited 8 y ago
Posted 8 y ago
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What.... The..... Hell.... AT best this shows questionable judgment. What the hell are they teaching at West Point!?
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What it boils down to is authorization. Unless I'm mistaken, if you wish to make any type of statement in uniform, then you may do it ONLY if you have submitted a request and have received permission from the proper authority.
So did they request and receive permission to take a picture in support of BLM? If so, then then they cannot be charged. If not, then they should be held accountable to the UCMJ, period.
And to the example of those marching in gay pride parades in uniform, that should have been punished as well. Another example of where the UCMJ was not applied when it should have been was to those in the reserves who were mobilized and refused to go.
What needs to be done is to promulgate a statement to all military, active and reserve, that we will draw a line at this moment in time. Going forward, ALL infractions of the UCMJ in regards to making political statements will be dealt with in accordance with the UCMJ with NO EXCEPTIONS.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are not even supposed to be in uniform except traveling between home and base. And in any utility uniform, you are not even allowed to step out of your transportation unless you are on base or at home. Any change in this rule must be authorized by your CO.
NO EXCEPTIONS!
So did they request and receive permission to take a picture in support of BLM? If so, then then they cannot be charged. If not, then they should be held accountable to the UCMJ, period.
And to the example of those marching in gay pride parades in uniform, that should have been punished as well. Another example of where the UCMJ was not applied when it should have been was to those in the reserves who were mobilized and refused to go.
What needs to be done is to promulgate a statement to all military, active and reserve, that we will draw a line at this moment in time. Going forward, ALL infractions of the UCMJ in regards to making political statements will be dealt with in accordance with the UCMJ with NO EXCEPTIONS.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are not even supposed to be in uniform except traveling between home and base. And in any utility uniform, you are not even allowed to step out of your transportation unless you are on base or at home. Any change in this rule must be authorized by your CO.
NO EXCEPTIONS!
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PO1 Scott VanBoskirk
BLM - Black Lives Matter, which is both a political statement and a race based (i.e. racist) statement. The BLM organization, based on their actions and all their press releases, believe that ONLY black lives matter and any other race does not deserve protection. In fact, it has been well documented that anyone who tells them that ALL lives matter and ALL races deserve equal protection tend to be beaten and driven out of the area. Also, there are many, well documented incidents involving BLM supporters killing or severely injuring/maiming any person that is not black.
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SGM (Join to see)
I would like to think that before these students were allowed to take this photo it was cleared by the Chain of Command. Have you ever taken time to read some of the bumper stickers on cars of military personnel in uniform traveling on and off military installations? If you have, you know without any doubt that they are making serious political statements. Has anyone complain about it?
You still see vehicles that military personnel in uniform are driving that have down with President Obama stickers on them, and he is our Commander in Chief. (Total disrespect)
We live in a world where people take sides, and opportunity of situations. Just read a few of the comments and you can immediately identify what ethic background or culture the person that is commenting is from.
If this would have been included in an ethic observance would we be having this discussion?
I am going to keep faith in West Point and say if this photo violated UCMJ rules the students would have been punished.
You still see vehicles that military personnel in uniform are driving that have down with President Obama stickers on them, and he is our Commander in Chief. (Total disrespect)
We live in a world where people take sides, and opportunity of situations. Just read a few of the comments and you can immediately identify what ethic background or culture the person that is commenting is from.
If this would have been included in an ethic observance would we be having this discussion?
I am going to keep faith in West Point and say if this photo violated UCMJ rules the students would have been punished.
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After 4 years of military education, paid for by the taxpayer, this is what we get. I hope every West Point Alumni gives them the cold shoulder from now until eternity! I hope the commandant drums them out in disgrace.
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Planned in advance to test the waters. I see a disgraceful deterioration of pride in the unity of the most prestigious military academy in the world. It will continue to to fade now that this is accepted. My heart hurts....
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Marlene Hessler
The regime of the current administration has done more to destroy and erode the United States Military than the entire Cold War did. Patriotism was strong during that communist era. The Enemy Within has turned our military into a social experiment and ran off the senior officers that support OUR CONSTITUTION. He is 4th generation Communist. That and being raise Muslim says it all. IT WILL TAKE MUCH TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. If it is not done with the next administration, OUR COUNTRY MAY NEVER RECUPERATE.
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Someone responded that the Cadets' perception was of negativity.
The Cadets' perception matters in that it shows they are NOT OFFICER MATERIAL.
However, it is NOT THEIR PERCEPTION THAT SHOULD CONCERN ALL OF US.
IT IS THE PERCEPTION THEIR ACTIONS PRESENT TO THE PEOPLE PAYING FOR THEIR EDUCATION AND THEIR PAYCHECKS AS OFFICERS.
PERCEPTION IS REALITY
REALITY IS THEY ARE A PROBLEM
The Cadets' perception matters in that it shows they are NOT OFFICER MATERIAL.
However, it is NOT THEIR PERCEPTION THAT SHOULD CONCERN ALL OF US.
IT IS THE PERCEPTION THEIR ACTIONS PRESENT TO THE PEOPLE PAYING FOR THEIR EDUCATION AND THEIR PAYCHECKS AS OFFICERS.
PERCEPTION IS REALITY
REALITY IS THEY ARE A PROBLEM
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COL Mo Fenner
Capt Gregory Prickett - I agree with you Capt Prickett. I would also like to point out that the cadets are also paying taxes.
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Marlene Hessler
Lots of people pay taxes. They do not all deserve the respect of a West Point graduate.
It's apples and grapefruit.
It's apples and grapefruit.
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SGT Charles Bartell
COL Mo Fenner - Just Because You Pay Taxes Does Not Make You Have The Means To Lead.
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Yes, time for the duffel bag drag. When I was in you kept your political views to yourself. I would love to the look on their faces when they get shit canned.
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What if this was a pic of a bunch of white males doing the hitter salute...would it be ok?
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