Posted on Jun 16, 2015
MSG Donald R. Lee, M.B.A.
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Vfw no one does more for vets
I have recently joined some Veterans Organizations and am surprised that more veterans are not members. Many of the benefits (especially for military retirees) we enjoy are due to the efforts of these organizations. I realize that some local organizations are better organized, have a larger membership, and/or are more active in the community, but nothing can be done without the support of the membership. Some organizations even give out "free" memberships (for a year) to returning vets from OIF or OEF. Most memberships cost about $30-40 a year and ask only one night a month to meet. Seems a small cost for all that they have done for me.

But how does everyone else feel about it? I'm sure others have had different experiences (some good, some bad) with their local organizations. Not looking to bash any particular group; just curious about your overall opinion of the value and effectiveness of these groups. Maybe there's some stereotypes that need to be changed. Thoughts???
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SGT Robert Hawks
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I have been a lifetime member of the DAV since 1999. I think they do great work to helping veterans.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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We can't make an absolute determination on ALL orgs. Some are good. Some are terrible.
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True. But which one's have you in their hearts and mind? JK
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I think the intent is to help everyone.....but at least at the local level many organizations only end up looking out for the good 'ole boys or the locals......they want nothing to do with those of us that were transplanted by service or life......in other words if I did not you know you in high school I don't want to know you now.
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Happy to hear.....not the same for me....and i will not will to be ignored for 12 more years. If your post is near Fayetteville NC please let me know i'll come check it out.
MAJ Karen Shive
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I disagree. I've been welcomed at many locations in Florida but I went to collage and HS in Augusta GA
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Maj Shive i'm glad it worked out different for you.....here in NC it's not like that....the only place I have not looked yet is one of the Legions in Fayetteville.....and to be honest i'm kind of dragging feet cause I just won't that door to close also....but hey glad to hear Florida likes you....maybe i'll move there so I can find a VFW....
CPO Norman Mauldin
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I'm certain if you find a post that is active in the community, you will see a different mentality. Try different posts and org's until you find one that's a good fit for you. With the gov't trying to cut military benefits, we need all the representation we can get.
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LCpl Brian Maloney
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I am a member of IAVA, Team Red White and Blue & The Mission Continues. Each one is a little different, but I highly recommend them all and the other groups mentioned.
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MSG Donald R. Lee, M.B.A.
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I'm familiar with IAVA, but Team RW&B and The Mission Continues are new to me. Thanks for letting me know about these other organizations. Is their focus OIF and OEF vets too?
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LCpl Brian Maloney
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Team RWB & The Mission Continues were started Post 9/11 but anyone can join. The Fellowship Program and Platoon Leaders of The Mission Continues are for OEF & OIF. The rest of the platoon is open to anyone - Military or Civilian.
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SSG Kevin McCulley
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I'm a life member of the VFW.. I joined on mid-tour leave during my first tour. Proud day for me.. Then I actually tried to go hang out at one and was made to feel unwelcome. 'You gotta be a vet to come in here.." Won't be back. Have no time for them.. wish I could get my life member money back..
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MSG Donald R. Lee, M.B.A.
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SSG McCulley, I agree completely with PO3 Smith. I have seen some Posts that are the stereotypical "drink and tell war-stories" posts, and others that are highly involved in the community and in supporting veterans. Sometimes you've got to look around to find a good one; your support, your leadership could make the difference in a mediocre post becoming a great one! I hope you'll give it another try. Thanks for sharing your experience. I fear yours is not unique.
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SSG Kevin McCulley
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Why in the hell would I pay dues again? Also, there isn't a lot there for us single guys.. Since the family friendly DoD thing started, us singles get to be a cold hot dog.
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SSG McCulley,
You're right about that. All VSO's work on Membership first. Tell me what VSO's don't. As a VFW and MOAA Life Member for over 21 and 22 years respectfully, I rather be involved with MOAA. They can make or brake the political SNAFU. Do what's right in your mind, but I would go back to that Post that you join and have a real good talk with your Post Commander and your Post Service Officer. Just to let them know how you were treated at their Post. Good Luck. JK
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SGT Thomas Lucken
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SSG Kevin McCulley - Totally agree with James! I am a member of the VFW, current a Post Commander and District Senior Vice! Also a member of the Legion! Both Posts I am in are good Posts and treat people fairly, as they want to be treated! Both Posts are quite active in their surrounding communities!

Just like the military or anywhere else you go. Always going to have some worthless people around!
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SPC Robert Greenly
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MSG, There is a HUGE stereotype with the VFW. What I have always observed and heard was that these places are full of a bunch of old men and some older women who only play bingo and BBQ. They go there for the cheap drinks and B.S. It also smells in the few that I have been in. Yes, to answer your question there is a huge stereotype with this organization. Some young veterans feel that there isn't a place for them or their modern ideas to "ramp up" the organization to be able to do more for the veteran.
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SSG(P) D. Wright Downs
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I still have heartburn about the way the VFW treated early VN vets...sorry, but that is the way it is. I saw bad blood in families up close and personal. DAV and American Legion did not get ruthless as I saw the VFW get. When they saw they would die out, puff, they turned around and started to look and act as brothers. The Vn vets who are in the leadership could not have acted better. In fact, the VVA motto is what has helped all the veteran organizations work for the betterment of all organizations . I have had no dealings with AMVETS. American Legion works with young people through baseball, oratory and citizenship, Girls state and Boys State. these are very important. Work for the betterment of the whole family ad therefore the country.
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SSgt Paula Szanca
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I definitely believe that these organizations benefit veterans and their social members. I am a lifetime member and 5 time commander of the American Legion and belong to the VFW also. For what you pay for membership is definitely worth the lower priced food and beverages. I don't know about the other Legions and VFW's, but we also offer free cover for bands and sometimes free food. We honor past commanders and 50+ years of continuous membership with a catered dinner every year as we do veteran on Veteran's Day. Our SAL (Sons of American Legion) get the same. We also have Easter Egg hunts and Christmas parties for the veteran's children and each child gets a present and we do not spare on the price of these gifts. But that is not the main purpose of our establishments. We donate thousands of dollars to the less fortunate/volunteer organizations/schools/other veteran organizations in our community to include Food Bank, Humane Society, Fire Company, Fix-A-Pet, Salvation Army to name a few. I recommend that if you are a vet, that you look into your local veteran organizations in your area and join. We also pay active duty's memberships. We are always in need of more veterans! If you need assistance in finding a veteran's organization in your area, please contact me and I will be more than happy to help you find one!
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MSG Donald R. Lee, M.B.A.
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Wow, you guys are definitely active in your community, a model for other organizations to look to. I'm sure your activity is a reflection of the membership - quality members make for a quality organization. Kudos!
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SSgt Paula Szanca
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Thank you Donald. Our membership usually stays around 96%. It's been down a bit because the older members are dying off. I know that sounds morbid, but true. We really need the younger generation to grab a hold of the reins. That is one of the reasons we pay active duty dues.
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Wow I need to move to where you are........the VFW where i'm at does not even have their own venue they use the library. 
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TSgt Mario Guajardo
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They all do good things, keep their local populations aware of veterans participation, and contribute to the local communities. I don't join because the last time I joined something it took twenty years of my life and my health so I'm through joinin'.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
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I'm not much of a joiner of anything. I belong to a couple of lineage organizations but no longer am able to travel 1100 miles round trip for the annual meeting and other functions at least three times a year.
We haven't been to church in a while. Many years as a Deacon wore me out and the younger people act like it's an options to fulfill their duties. I'm 64 and I felt like it was time for me to step down. It seems too many people were relying on me to cover their shifts and close up and it was the only way to have time to myself.
My impression of the American Legion was of too many men drinking too many beers. And I don't feel like rehashing old stuff over and over. I enjoy an evening of poker or pinochle but no one seems to play cards any more. My Grandfather and I used to sit for 8 hours at a time playing about 30 different card games but he's been gone since 1984 so I guess that's how long it's been since I played.
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