Posted on May 9, 2017
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There reason I ask is because I was recently chastised by someone when I told them I was not going to vote in the local mayoral election...I was told that it was our right as Americans and as an Army officer I should be ashamed of myself, but the catch is that the person giving me crap is a complete and total anti-gunner. Thoughts?
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Cpl Joshua Caldwell
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I could make an equivalence between those two rights. I have both rights, I may or may not choose to exercise those rights, but if a majority of us Constitution supporting types, don't choose to vote, then we will likely lose our right to bear arms, and then potentially our right to vote. I vote every chance that I get, mostly because there are anti-gun, anti-freedom people out there, and I need to help to out vote them, or we will spiral into an ugly conflict.
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I can definitely see your point, and you're right, I should probably get out and vote in every election, but unfortunately I just don't. I vote in all the major elections, and make an effort for the smaller ones, but sometimes I don't. I just could not understand this other guy's point of view when he was arguing so hard for me to vote, because it is a right, but when I mentioned gun ownership, and that being a right, he looked at me like I was Satan himself.
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I concur! We have to vote to keep the left wing liberals from winning and stripping our rights away one by one. I vote because if I don't vote than I don't have the right to feel like I have been done wrong when my rights are taken away.
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CAPT Kevin B.
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Unless you missed it, there isn't a Constitutional right to vote. The 15th Amendment merely stated that you cannot be denied the right to vote under certain circumstances. That means if there is something people can vote on, nobody can be denied due to race, color, or previous condition of servitude. Doesn't talk about religion, sex, sexual preference, etc. The Supreme Court in 2000 (Alexander vs. Maneta) stated the Constitution “does not protect the right of all citizens to vote, but rather the right of all qualified citizens to vote.” It’s state legislatures that wield the power to decide who is qualified. That States grant or withhold voting privileges. So the rights granted under the Constitution are considered foundation stones. Stuff granted by Feds/State/Local under legislation are the next tier down. There are a lot of Commissions, Boards, etc. out there where you can't vote on membership as they are made up by appointed people. So when we use the term "right", it's best to know what provides it.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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CAPT Kevin B., well said!
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SSgt Christopher Brose
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While you make a decent argument, the same could be said for the 2nd Amendment -- it's right not for all citizens, but for all qualified citizens. That doesn't make it any less of a Constitutional right, so I disagree with your opening sentence. Voting is a Constitutional right.
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CAPT Kevin B.
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Show me the text in the Constitution along the line of "The right of the people to vote shall not be abridged". Problem is wanting to believe something is there when it isn't. Regardless, the Supreme Court stipulated that it isn't, so it doesn't matter what either of us think.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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Don't expect rational consistency from the left - they are emotion-based.
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